New Improved Remington .22 'bulk' ammo
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If you are asking me that question it has to do with my thinking is this: I do not fix what is not broke. I found Remington rimfire to be bad a long time ago so why should I now reward them. I have ammo that works well so I will reward the companies that have always pleased me. I am loyal to good products. Never afraid to try something "new" if it makes sense.
If you are asking me that question it has to do with my thinking is this: I do not fix what is not broke. I found Remington rimfire to be bad a long time ago so why should I now reward them. I have ammo that works well so I will reward the companies that have always pleased me. I am loyal to good products. Never afraid to try something "new" if it makes sense.
LongTimeGone
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I buy Federal AutoMatch in 325 boxes from wallies.
My Buckmark really likes it. No FTF from 4 boxes so far.
But I also buy Rem 525s for the grandkids to use in a CZ Scout and Henry GB.
I just tell them to wait a few seconds and then cycle a new round for any FTFs of which there are a few.
I'll look for the new stuff when I run out.
Zero. Bullets are designed by engineers, built using machines that themselves have tolerances and failure rates. If the primer you use has a .001% failure rate, and .001% of brass cases are over spec diameter, and ....You see where I'm going with this? Zero. Is. Not. Possible.
theCan said:
I didn't state that 100% of the ammunition made will have a zero failure to fire rate as it comes off the bullet assembly line. I simply stated that the ACCEPTED failure rate is ZERO. In other words, if it doesn't pass testing it won't ship i.e. it's scrap. As always, testing is a statistical method so there's always a chance that defects can leave the plant but the chances are very, very low for the "new and improved".
22-rimfire
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If N&I has a 1% failure rate, I would be perfectly satisfied choosing Remington. I don't expect any 22 rimfire ammo to be perfect. A 1% failure rate could very easily be caused by your firearm anyway.
There has been so much talk about these rounds I decided to check them out. Just got done weighing them, my box of 225 actually had 223, the absolute widest spread I have seen of any ammo I have ever tested. They ranged from 48.4 grains up to 50.2 grains. 19 different piles. The widest spread I've ever seen for any CCI stuff was a batch of Stinger hollowpoints that ranged a full grain. Aguila stuff can range a little wider, maybe 1.3 grains for the widest batch I've seen. This does not bode well for this weekend's testing. I'm interested in seeing the overall vertical stringing from one end to the other.
tech30528,
I was able to hit a 12" brake rotor at 50 yards at will using the Kimber conversion kit shown below and the new stuff. I shot 100 rounds without any issues and will shoot the remaining 123 or possibly 125 this weekend. If every one goes bang and flattens itself on the brake rotor then I'm happy, then again, I don't shoot small bore matches ... if I did, I'd be shooting Eley.
I was able to hit a 12" brake rotor at 50 yards at will using the Kimber conversion kit shown below and the new stuff. I shot 100 rounds without any issues and will shoot the remaining 123 or possibly 125 this weekend. If every one goes bang and flattens itself on the brake rotor then I'm happy, then again, I don't shoot small bore matches ... if I did, I'd be shooting Eley.
I buy Federal AutoMatch in 325 boxes from wallies.
My Buckmark really likes it. No FTF from 4 boxes so far.
But I also buy Rem 525s for the grandkids to use in a CZ Scout and Henry GB.
I just tell them to wait a few seconds and then cycle a new round for any FTFs of which there are a few.
I'll look for the new stuff when I run out.
They work perfectly in my CZ and Henry.
There must be more than one factory making them and the one near the rest of you guys sucks.
JTHunter
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For the past year, I've been comparing prices of certain ammo at 2 LGS's, Walmart, and the local gunshow. With summer coming, my mother takes potshots at the "stinkpot" turtles and muskrats on her lake, so I went to Walmart to get her a bos of the .22 bulk.
Up until recently, the store I normally go to has had a fair supply of all 3 bulkpaks (Win. 555, Fed. 550, & Rem. 550), but not this time (4/23/12). All bulks were gone!
Today, I stopped at the other superstore in the area and got a box of the Winchester's (at bloody $22!!!) and was told that they will no longer be carrying the other two. Naturally, the Fed. and Rem. had been cheaper, $19 & $20 respectively.
Go figure!
Up until recently, the store I normally go to has had a fair supply of all 3 bulkpaks (Win. 555, Fed. 550, & Rem. 550), but not this time (4/23/12). All bulks were gone!
Today, I stopped at the other superstore in the area and got a box of the Winchester's (at bloody $22!!!) and was told that they will no longer be carrying the other two. Naturally, the Fed. and Rem. had been cheaper, $19 & $20 respectively.
Go figure!
zxcvbob
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I bought Remington bulk pack GB's about 4 or 5 years ago and had no problems at all with them in my Ruger Mk2, except they were not accurate enough for target shooting. Maybe it was I was a lousy shot, but the CCI Mini-Mags had a lot less flyers.
OTOH, Remington target ammo in the yellow plastic boxes had about a 10% misfire rate. It is the worst ammo I've ever tried to use. I still have a box of it somewhere :spit:
Lately I've been shooting Aguila standard velocity, in the golden yellow paper boxes. I bought a case of it a couple of years ago. I've had one misfire out of several thousand rounds.
OTOH, Remington target ammo in the yellow plastic boxes had about a 10% misfire rate. It is the worst ammo I've ever tried to use. I still have a box of it somewhere :spit:
Lately I've been shooting Aguila standard velocity, in the golden yellow paper boxes. I bought a case of it a couple of years ago. I've had one misfire out of several thousand rounds.
Exactly my point earlier.
Well, here's the breakdown on those by weight.
48.4 1
48.5 2
48.6 11
48.7 3
48.8 3
48.9 30
49.0 18
49.1 13
49.2 16
49.3 26
49.4 11
49.5 18
49.6 27
49.7 17
49.8 11
49.9 10
50.0 4
50.1 2
50.2 1
It's like they just stood a bunch of cases on a table and dumped a handful of powder on them. I could understand the majority being somewhere in the middle of the range and the numbers tapering off toward both ends but it's like they weren't even trying. I would pass it off as just general use ammo for short distance plinking, but the adverts on the box are pretty bold. If this is "greater accuracy" they must have truly sucked before. And they are giving ballistic data on the box for 100 yards, so it's not as though they are intending them to be close up plinkers. Well we'll see what this weekend brings, but so far I'm seriously underwhelmed.
48.4 1
48.5 2
48.6 11
48.7 3
48.8 3
48.9 30
49.0 18
49.1 13
49.2 16
49.3 26
49.4 11
49.5 18
49.6 27
49.7 17
49.8 11
49.9 10
50.0 4
50.1 2
50.2 1
It's like they just stood a bunch of cases on a table and dumped a handful of powder on them. I could understand the majority being somewhere in the middle of the range and the numbers tapering off toward both ends but it's like they weren't even trying. I would pass it off as just general use ammo for short distance plinking, but the adverts on the box are pretty bold. If this is "greater accuracy" they must have truly sucked before. And they are giving ballistic data on the box for 100 yards, so it's not as though they are intending them to be close up plinkers. Well we'll see what this weekend brings, but so far I'm seriously underwhelmed.
22-rimfire
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I bought a couple 225 round boxes. Will try them out next time I go shooting.
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I don't think i could use anything other than cci standards, accurate and subsonic.
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Interesting... How accurate is your scale?
danez71
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And when was the last time it was caibrated by some one/some place thats certified to calibrate such equipment?
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