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news article compairing us to jihadist fundamentalists

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by dark.zero.x, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. dark.zero.x

    dark.zero.x Well-Known Member

  2. Grassman

    Grassman Well-Known Member

    I've just about had it with these media types.
  3. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Ya'll do realize that blogs and editorials are not journalism?
  4. dark.zero.x

    dark.zero.x Well-Known Member

    Well pardon my dumb then, its getting so hard to tell these days. I would think if google news puts this on its front page that it would be from an accredited source seems thats not the case.
  5. Hapworth

    Hapworth Well-Known Member

    Read it. Don't mind serious discussion about gun control when all parties are informed and discerning.

    This author is neither. In opening with comparing gun enthusiasts to jihadi fundamentalists as one-to-one analogues, the author betrays his own fundamentalist leanings in refusing to acknowledge the nuances of the gun control issue and the many shades and stripes of people who support gun ownership.

    Some thinkers on both sides of the divide are worth reading, but not this one.
  6. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    You do make a valid point. Unfortunately the line between journalism and commentary has become harder and harder to see. This is unfortunately a trend that has exploded as demonstrated by the number of cable tv shows like those of Bill Oreily, Rachel Maddow, Hannity and in addition to am radio programming. None of these are actually news and are far more interested in catering reinforcing the world views of their audience for the sake of ratings.
  7. dark.zero.x

    dark.zero.x Well-Known Member

    Upon further digging this is the blog The Atlanta journal-constitution and that is a real news source from what I can tell. The blog in question is their version of the opinion column.
  8. M-Cameron

    M-Cameron member

    hrmm.....i wonder if i should write an article comparing anti-gun advocates to the KKK....because they are trying to remove rights and discriminate against a specific group of otherwise law abiding people....

    i wonder how much theyd like to see an article comparing Feinstein to Bin Laden for using the deaths of children to their political advantage......

    or maybe i could just publish the locations of homes that do not have guns.....

    i love that, essentially what they are saying is "the current data doesnt reflect my views, and i dont want to admit im wrong"......
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  9. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    New version of Godwin's Law:
    You know a side in a debate has lost it when they start making comparisons to jihadist fundamentalists.
  10. berettaprofessor

    berettaprofessor Well-Known Member

    Yes, and I also realize that blogs and editorials are blatent attempts to communicate bias to the readership.
  11. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Well of course they are. That's their whole point. The real problem is when the line between becomes harder and harder to see and that people today so commonly rely on bloggers and pundits for their news.
  12. berettaprofessor

    berettaprofessor Well-Known Member

    Follow the anti-gun author's links; he/she writes for Khabar, which turns out to be a magazine for the Indian-American community. Does anyone want to bet that Parthiv Parehk is as foreign as Piers Morgan? I'm not saying foreign-born individuals are all bad, but it would be helpful that if they don't like the culture here, they'd return to the one they like. I don't plan to move to England/India/wherever and start complaining that they are all backward because they don't have American Football.
  13. d2wing

    d2wing Well-Known Member

    Common left propaganda. They demonize all conservatives by name calling and making false comparisons. They have been allowed to,define arguments such as calling moral people, haters, defenders of freedom as fanatics
    They are modern brown shirts. They have become mainstream. How crazy this world has become, that the crazies are now normal and normal is evil.
  14. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Riiiiight. Because those on the right never engage in such activities. Uh huh.

    So what? There are plenty of Pro-gun immigrants as well. I hate to dissapoint you but the 1st amendment does not only apply to natural born americans.
  15. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    While the established media won't write these "hit pieces" on their own time, they are more than willing to publish them when written by someone they can disavow as not being on payroll. So while they maintain the illusion of parity in reporting, they also achieve their goal of influencing their readership with an extreme leftist agenda.

    When we stop crying about "fairness" in journalism (there never has been such a thing) and just start selecting reporting that either comes from a worldview similar to ours or select a cross section of views and sort the wheat from the chaffe while being aware of and discarding the view in favor of gleaning facts from the fluff, we'll all be better off.

    In other words, listen to both CNN and Alex Jones. The truth will lie somewhere in the middle.
  16. Hapworth

    Hapworth Well-Known Member

    There's no single-point, monolithic American culture to like or dislike -- it's many-headed and many-hued, and whether you and I agree with it or not, Parehk's opinion does reflect the attitude of many of our fellow Americans.

    That's what the whole point of the melting pot is.

    Wishing a foreigner away just because they don't agree with your view of things is really un-American.
  17. RX-178

    RX-178 Well-Known Member

    Those that have no respect for, and seek to actively undermine the Constitution are not just 'disagreeing with our viewpoints'.
  18. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    Don't complain that America is different that the hole you or your parents left. Matters of opinion are open for debate. Saying you want to dismantle our Constitution is, regardless of how un-PC is sounds, an act of war.

    I'd opt for deportation, but maybe the author would prefer we did things like they do in India. Whippings and hangings used to be popular here, too.
  19. Hapworth

    Hapworth Well-Known Member

    Listen, I think Parehk's a schmuck, but not because he wants to increase gun control, though I happen to disagree with him -- Parehk's a schmuck because his logical and rhetorical skills are so inept he can't even follow his own line of reasoning, much less the larger issues.

    But let's not get breathless here. Arguing for gun control doesn't automatically equate to having no respect for, actively seeking to undermine, or dismantling the Constitution.

    You, me, and everyone here who isn't an anarchist or a fool believes in gun control -- it's just a matter of where the lines get drawn. That isn't unconstitutional.

    And it's cheap to turn to anti-foreigner talk, not to mention playing right into the most negative stereotypes they have for gun ownership supporters at a time when we have to maintain a more principled higher ground.
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  20. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Well-Known Member

    So instead of attacking poorly-argued ideas listed by a misguided or bigoted author, we resort to lumping everyone that opposes our idea into one stereotypical political ideology, xenophobia, and "git out of 'Merica" rhetoric?

    We don't need liberals to make up stereotypes when we have plenty of folks are willing to volunteer playing that stereotype. This is THR, not call-in talk radio.

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