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Non-Supressed Supressor as a Muzzle Brake?

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by barnbwt, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. barnbwt

    barnbwt Well-Known Member

    I've read that suppressors greatly reduce recoil, even in supersonic rounds, but the noise reduction they are designed for causes them to be regulated. Has anyone tried to develop a muzzle device that is essentially a suppressor perforated with holes to ensure it yields the same volume as a non-modified barrel? Or would such a device no longer reduce recoil significantly (i.e. no free lunch:()?

    It seems like this would give the shooter reduced recoil, while avoiding the blast inherent to most muzzle brakes which precludes their use without hearing protection (not that any firearm should be discharged sans 'muffs, but I'm speaking of a trail defense rifle, whose shooter may not have fair warning). Would such a device still need to be regulated by BATFE (even if the holes can't easily be plugged to make it a full-on silencer)?

  2. Rail Driver

    Rail Driver Well-Known Member

    They make muzzle brakes for that. There are some designs that direct the muzzle blast away from the shooter.
  3. Gato Montés

    Gato Montés Well-Known Member

    Does a silencer dampen recoil? Sure, but I don't think it has anything to do with its inherent design rather a side effect of throwing all that weight on the end of the gun. Could be wrong though.

    That being said, you could always buy a fake can and screw that onto the end of your barrel and see how that works.
  4. xxhaxx

    xxhaxx Member

    Recoil is momentum of the projectile and exhaust gasses. Since a silencer allows the gas to expand when it enters the baffle the exiting gas velocity is lowered. Slower moving gas less recoil.
  5. barnbwt

    barnbwt Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Though I suppose by not directing the gas backward, you can only reduce recoil somewhat, as opposed to eliminating it (like with a brake). I was thinking about this concept with regards to an integrally-suppressed type setup using barrel ports. You could get a reduced-recoil performance without massive concussion or long/fragile muzzle extensions that can snag on stuff (or be feared by politicians :rolleyes:). Even better, there'd be no chance of baffle strike (no baffles) and even full-power supersonic loads could be safely shot, right?

    And I suppose the perforated "noisy" barrel shroud could be replaced with an intact one (with proper stamps) for a suppressed configuration. I wouldn't think the BATFE would think that'd be more easily converted than any gun with a threaded barrel, right?

  6. jmorris

    jmorris Well-Known Member

    Some designs like the onee below would make for an effective brake without its outer tube. The ease of "converting" it to a real silencer would make it a no no in the eyes of the NFA branch. Kind of like thed original fake cans on the GSG .22's.

  7. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    The suppressor captures the momentum of the exhaust gases (pulling the rifle against recoil), pauses them, and the more slowly releases the exhaust gas outs its muzzle (and the breech if it's open by this time).

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