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Not again.......! Feral Hog Control in East Texas

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Flintknapper, May 13, 2009.

  1. Twmaster

    Twmaster Active Member

    Mr Humpback, You really do not understand the magnitude of the problem here in Texas. :D
  2. bldsmith

    bldsmith New Member

    I know flints Father does not want outsiders hunting on the property but Have gun will Travel is my motto;). Even have the 458 though no pile drivers yet. The 405's should do a number though.
  3. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member


    Yes, the 405 Remy (pictured next to last ) is a great bullet for either the .458 SOCOM or the venerable 45/70.

    These are the different bullets I currently load for the SOCOM, but the 405 Remy sees more ‘duty’ than any of the others.

  4. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Do those all feed OK through the SOCOM? Or do you single feed them?
  5. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member

    Everything feeds great through it, except the 540 grain Piledriver (#10).

    Sometimes the very last cartridge in the magazine will hang up, but not often. The meplat alone is .375"

    540 gr. Piledriver:


  6. Twmaster

    Twmaster Active Member

    Pure awesomeness. I've got all the parts to build another complete AR other than a barrel and bolt for 458. Just waiting for the frenzy to settle down.
  7. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Man. I've got to build me one of those.

    That's a whole lotta bullet!
  8. Ms_Dragon

    Ms_Dragon New Member

    Those little red squealers look like they'd real tasty.

    Do you think they'd keep that color as they matured or will they darken?
  9. bldsmith

    bldsmith New Member

    Yea I made up some of the 405's for my last range trip. But they had a feeding problem so I did not get the testing done. Soon as I can I will head back out and try again. Think I got the feeding problem solved but won't know for sure until I run the loads again. Now I will be getting all my stock loaded up. I really want to do some of those PileDrivers. THey look like one heck of a round. Oh well will have to do with the 405's and all the others for now.
  10. JRH6856

    JRH6856 New Member

    Have you had any problems with the gas check coming loose inside the case?
  11. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member


    They are crimped on very tightly. When seating the bullet the pressure is against the Gas Check, so as long as it is properly crimped you should have no problem.

    Of course, once the powder ignites, the expanding gas contacts the Gas Check pressing it firmly against the bullet base (several thousand pounds of pressure while still in the case). So....not much chance anything will go awry.
  12. JRH6856

    JRH6856 New Member

    Thanks, Flint. I haven't used gas checked bullets but have seen manual warnings not to seat them below the case neck to prevent separation.
  13. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member

    Most of them will darken considerably...but still retain a reddish color, though I've also seen reddish piglets/shoats turn a rather blonde color (actually get lighter).

    The striped ones (often reddish/brown) invariably turn dark, but the solid red ones tend to stay red(ish).

    You understand, this can be to different degrees.

    A few examples:

  14. Ms_Dragon

    Ms_Dragon New Member

    Thanks FlintKnapper!

    Seeing dead pigs makes me a happy little camper.
  15. bldsmith

    bldsmith New Member

    The way I have had it explained to me regarding seating depth irt gas check bullets was. They do not recommend seating the gas check below the case neck. On higher pressure rounds, ie 50kpsi+, the pressure could deform the base of the bullet and gas check causing an extreme pressure spike that could be catastrophic. On the 458 SOCOM the pressures do not get nearly high enough. It uses 35k- pressures and the likelihood of deformation of the base very unlikely in rounds at or below the designed pressures. That is why it is so important that you do not see any evidence of high pressure on 458 loads. It takes more than 35k pressure to deform primers and other indicators like cratering etc.
  16. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member


    Go back to reply 1183 as concerns the gas check.

    As you alluded to...it is not a concern in the SOCOM (with hardcast bullets and proper usage), but an excellent topic nonetheless.
  17. bldsmith

    bldsmith New Member

    yup that's were I read it. Page 48 for those who would like to see it.
  18. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Active Member

    I ran my intended loads through QuickLoad several times and used the pressure curve graphs to predict maximum pressure (including initial shot start) at .330 travel (the amount necessary for the bullet base to enter the neck).

    Even with my hottest loads of Lil'Gun it was coming in at under 28,000 psi (not enough to cause the bullet to expand, but on the cusp).

    Even though the practice (in this case) is perfectly safe, your point is well taken and more than worthy of mention...since in other applications (high pressure rounds) it is 'possible' to create a problem for yourself.

    Good mention Sir!

  19. sixgunner455

    sixgunner455 New Member

    Man, I thought I was done building uppers for a while. Now, I'm thinking of doing something silly and start collecting parts for a .458. Just because. :D
  20. Gunner11

    Gunner11 New Member

    So thats what theyre up to

    Just bought a game cam, some of the first photos off it, makes me realize we could have a significant problem beginning . In all counted 17 pigs in a 2 hour photo string, then nothing for the rest of the night. looks like a job for some 00 buck

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