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Not since 'Dirty Harry' has a Magnum handgun drawn this much attention

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 2dogs, Feb 24, 2003.

  1. 2dogs

    2dogs Well-Known Member


    Not since 'Dirty Harry' has a Magnum handgun drawn this much attention

    By Brent Wheat, For the Journal and Courier

    This corner prides itself on bringing readers the latest, greatest and most important news from the outdoor world, but we blew it this time.

    We had the hottest national firearms story in our hands at the Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trades (SHOT) show last week in Orlando but we didn't realize its significance.

    For that, I apologize.

    Apparently the anti-gunners got their collective panties in a bunch over the new Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum handgun, introduced at the show as "The most powerful production handgun in the world!"

    In typically unbiased fashion (note the sarcasm), The Associated Press wrote about the gun and made sure to feature quotes from the head of an antigun group on this latest threat to law and order.

    The Feb. 13 story by Trudy Tynan gave a brief overview of the gun, then said that "some dispute the wisdom of producing such a powerful handgun."

    The "some" is Tom Diaz, senior policy adviser of the Violence Policy Center, a Washington-based anti-gun group. "It boggles the mind," Diaz said, predicting the gun will bring "a new order of threat to law enforcement."

    Scripps Howard News Service writer Lowell Branham questioned the objectivity and slant of Ms. Tynan in a column that pointed out the factual errors of the wire story. For example, the AP story sniffed, "The introduction of the big gun marks a sharp departure for the 150-year-old company, which for the past five years has concentrated on the development of lightweight revolvers using alloys of rare metals."

    This is far from the truth.

    While Smith & Wesson has been building lightweight revolvers, it has also introduced many other new products including a 1911-style autopistol that attracted much attention. In case you weren't aware, the 1911 is intended for only two purposes: shooting competition and self-defense in the hands of law enforcement, military and properly licensed citizens. That means shooting people.

    The story also used the last two paragraphs to point out that shooters ostracized the gun maker when it made the ill-fated agreement with the Clinton administration that nearly drove the company out of business. As Tynan wrote, "In 2001, the ailing gunmaker was sold by its British owner to an Arizona startup company that all but abandoned the agreement with the government and adopted an aggressive and unapologetic marketing stance."

    As well it should, I might add.

    It was also reported by CNS news.com that Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) doesn't like the gun either. According to the story reprinted in the National Shooting Sports Federation newsletter, Davis said, "You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver. Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

    He promises to introduce legislation in Congress to ban the gun. As far as hunting with a revolver, my deer hunting partner was apparently shooting at me the past 10 years instead of all that venison we brought home.

    So what is all this hullabaloo about?

    I handled the Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum and found it interesting but not very practical for Dirty Harry wannabes. Weighing in at four and a half pounds with a barrel over eight inches long, it is quite a handful even for folks with big meaty paws like me. The trigger seems very rough for such a good quality weapon, though that might be a quirk of the display gun that was being dry-fired every five seconds.

    The 500 Magnum is in the same class as a medium deer rifle in terms of ballistics, though the half-inch hole produced by the bullet would certainly allow a great deal of cold air into the target. It is clearly a hunting weapon that would be difficult to conceal unless you were wearing a down trench coat.

    At a suggested retail price of nearly $1,000, it seems unlikely that your local methamphetamine addict will buy one to knock off the corner liquor store. Ammunition prices haven't been announced but $40 a box or more could be expected for the big cartridges.

    In final review, this engineering masterpiece has generated far more negative coverage than a simple tool should deserve. If you are looking for a great big handgun to hunt dangerous game or just want to own the latest shooting toy, buy a 500 Magnum.

    If you think this gun is going to be killing police officers and toddlers by the hearse-load, go find something else to fill your pointy little head with worry.
  2. J Miller

    J Miller Well-Known Member


    Great post, I just have to take it to task for one line in it, then make a couple comments.

    The phrase "properly licensed citizens" is an oxymoron, and is an anti-gun sentiment. If you are "licensed" you are not a citizen, you are a subject. Because your "license" is subject to the whims of the government. Free people are citizens. Free people don't need licenses to own and/or carry guns.

    With this hand canon the perp would be more likly to knock the corner off the liquour store. :what:

    Since this huge gun has reached the web sites and I have watched the threads on it, I first said I'd love to shoot it, but wouldn't want to own one. Well, because of all the negative press coming from the anti's I have decided that if I am ever financially able to afford one, I'm gonna buy it. Just to spite HGI and their minions. :neener:
  3. 2dogs

    2dogs Well-Known Member

    Just to spite HGI and their minions

    J Miller

    A good, solid reason to own one- I like your thinking.:D
  4. redneck

    redneck Well-Known Member

    "aggressive and unapologetic marketing stance"

    What the heck is that supposed to mean? What are they supposed to be appologetic about? "We're sorry we've unleashed this monstrosity on society, but its the only way we can stay in business"...is that how they expect it to be? :rolleyes: :banghead:

    The more I read opinions from the anti side, the more I worry what this world is coming too.
  5. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Wake me up when S&W repudiates, burns, denies, and otherwise trashes that agreement.... :rolleyes:
  6. dairycreek

    dairycreek Well-Known Member

    As with most things..............

    the market place will determine sucess or failure of this latest S&W venture. As for me, I won't buy one. Good shooting;)
  7. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member

    I'm still waiting for the Scandium version...
  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Heh heh. :)

    - Gabe
  9. MountainPeak

    MountainPeak Well-Known Member

    Tamara, since I'm male, I'm waiting for the internal hammer, scandium version. I don't want anything snagging when I pull out that concealed carried beauty, from the front of my pants. O.K., first liar doesn't stand a chance!:eek:
  10. seeker_two

    seeker_two Well-Known Member

    I'd pay cash money to see a gang-banger try to stuff THAT into the waistband of his low-rider sweats.

    Cops would have an easy time catching them. Dumb punks would be the ones w/ their pants around their ankles...:what:
  11. MountainPeak

    MountainPeak Well-Known Member

    Seeker, speak for yourself!(First Liar) :D
  12. cliffdropover1

    cliffdropover1 Active Member

    Here is a picture of the little darling.
    No luck with the pic. I will try again.
  13. Braz

    Braz Well-Known Member

    Some guns are too big,
    others too small.
    Some are short,
    or simply too tall.

    Beware stealth plastics
    and bayonet lugs.
    Limit magazine rounds
    by using a plug.

    Lay off, lay off of my
    right to own guns.
    You can do what ya want,
    but lay off'a that
    2nd amendment, son.

    No decent person
    would own that type of gun.
    We'll ban every kind'a ammo
    to ruin their fun.

    We'll start with a few
    and most won't complain.
    Boilling frogs from cold water
    disguises the pain.

    Lay off, lay off of my
    right to own guns.
    You can do what ya want,
    but lay off'a that
    2nd amendment, son.

    One by one, shooter's rights
    continue to fall.
    Soon there'll be so few,
    we'll go for them all.

    Trust us to know
    what's best for your life.
    And fill out these forms
    to register that knife!

    Lay off, lay off of my
    right to own guns.
    You can do what ya want,
    but lay off'a that
    2nd amendment, son.
  14. cliffdropover1

    cliffdropover1 Active Member

    Still no luck
  15. cliffdropover1

    cliffdropover1 Active Member

    Still no luck with the pic. Don't know what I am doing wrong.
  16. cliffdropover1

    cliffdropover1 Active Member

  17. AZTOY

    AZTOY Well-Known Member

  18. cliffdropover1

    cliffdropover1 Active Member

    Nice picture, If only I could remember how to do that.

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