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NY Daily News BS

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by hso, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    Ignoring bad spelling, incorrect information, misleading statements, misrepresented facts it ain't half bad as a piece of fiction... :barf:


    Weapons that can
    shatter concrete

    Semiautomatic assault rifles have returned, and cops who face them know all too well what they can do


    Fully automatic gun turns brick to powder. Semiautomatics can be modified to do same.

    The Cold AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle is long, black and sleek and shoots .223-caliber ammunition, or 2-inch long bullets.
    For 10 years, the sale and manufacture of the fearsome weapon was illegal anywhere in America.

    Last week, as some Southern stores resumed sale of the rifle, Police Officer Darrell Corti demonstrated its destructive power.

    Corti aimed the weapon at a cinderblock at the NYPD firing range at Rodman's Neck in the Bronx and pulled the trigger. The burst of gunfire rang loudly in the ears despite protective gear. The narrow bullet traveled at such a high velocity that it pierced a half-dollar-sized hole in the inch-thick side of the stone before shattering into shiny fragments.

    The round is capable of penetrating some bulletproof vests.

    "These are weapons of war, and to make them more readily available is certainly a concern for us," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. "It is a concern for police officers because they're the ones at 2 a.m. who are most likely to confront these types of weapons."

    More than a decade ago, the AR-15 had been routinely used by dealers to guard drug dens. Now it can be legally sold in federally licensed gun shops in certain states, along with Uzis, Macs and Tec-9s, the sinister-looking pistols toted by thugs who devastated the city.

    With the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban two weeks ago, will the guns that held neighborhoods in the clench of violence in the late 1980s and early 1990s be making a comeback?

    "Assault weapons will be more lethal and less expensive. High capacity magazines will be back in production for civilian sale," the Consumer Federation of America darkly concluded after polling weapons manufacturers.

    New York's own ban on assault weapons remains in effect, and the city has some of toughest gun laws in the nation, but traffickers have managed to smuggle in thousands of illegal handguns each year through Southern states, where lax laws allow multiple purchases and the use of so-called straw buyers.

    Authorities are concerned that as stores now offer the higher-powered weapons, as well as certain styles favored by criminals and magazines holding as many as 50 bullets, that the weapons will make their way into the arsenals of the city's gangs and drug organizations.

    "We are concerned anytime illegal firearms, whether handguns or rifles, are trafficked or possessed in New York City," said William McMahon, special agent in charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives New York office. "In the hands of criminals, any of these weapons can be deadly."

    The new availability of increased firepower is a major concern. Under the ban, dealers could not sell magazines holding more than 10 bullets.

    "With the magazine limitation lifted, you have in effect what amounts to putting an automatic weapon on the street," said Kelly. "A 30- or 50-round clip put in a semiautomatic, you just keep pulling the trigger and you put out an awful lot of firepower."

    "They're going to shoot what they've got," said a Bronx investigator.

    But the National Rifle Association said the fears are unfounded.

    "We've received phone calls from numerous rank-and-file police who know this ban had nothing to do with crime," said Andrew Arulanandam, an NRA spokesman. "These guns have been available in different forms. A magazine is a piece of metal. The focus ought not to be on an inanimate object, but on the criminal, who gets guns through the black market."

    The ban on 19 weapons was signed into law by former President Bill Clinton after shootouts among drug dealers claimed hundreds of innocent lives in inner cities and deranged killers armed with assault rifles grabbed headlines in pristine suburbs.

    Assault rifles had such features as a folding stock, a night sight, a flash suppressor, a bayonet mount, a pistol grip and a large magazine capacity.

    Of 125 guns taken off the street last year by just one firearms investigations team, 10 of them were banned weapons; most were cheap 9-mm. handguns.

    With the ban lifted, some criminals may covet the status and intimidating reliability of once forbidden firepower, investigators said.

    For example, the newly available Colt AR-15 bears a revered name in the gun industry, known for accurate, well-made weapons.

    Likewise, the Mac-10 is twice the size of the Glock 9-mm. carried by cops, and packs a 30-shot ammunition clip.

    Although the firms that manufactured some of the guns are defunct, stores may have inventories they were previously unable to sell. And authorities believe a manufacturer will fill the void. The Tec-9 is also a weapon that helped spike the city's murders to a record 2,245 in 1990.

    "The Tec-9 has the same power as the Glock, but it's a bigger gun, with a big handle, and you can add a flash suppressor - and it's a very menacing gun, and that's why criminals wanted it," said a federal firearms investigator.

    "Currently the Tec-9s are the biggest concern," added a detective in the firearms unit. "They're everywhere ... and in the winter, these guns are easily concealed under bulky jackets."

    "It remains to be seen what the effect will be, but lifting the ban can only bring about bad things," Kelly said.

    Originally published on September 25, 2004
  2. StopTheGrays

    StopTheGrays Active Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Well I clicked on the link because I did not think a hoplophobe could make that many mistakes, I thought it might have been a careful edit by the poster. BZZZZZTTTT!!!! Wrong :banghead:

    These :cuss: never seem to get their facts straight and it does not help having these political LEOs push their anti-gun agenda by either not correcting information they know is wrong or just flat out lying about it. I am waiting for the day when a reporter with some balls or intelligence just calls one of these people on the true facts.

    PS This is just what I needed to wake me up this afternoon...I will be :fire: for the rest of the day now.
  3. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    People who can't even spell the manufacturer's name shouldn't try to masquerade as journalists.
  4. gigmike

    gigmike Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    Tacoma, WA
    Do I need special dies to reload those 2" long bullets? I hope not, I was hoping to spend my extra money on a subsciption to the NY Daily News.
  5. SoundWave

    SoundWave New Member

    Mar 23, 2004

    Worst. "Article". Ever.

    Bar none! That's journalism for you! WOW! I don't think they could have ANY more errors packed in there, I really don't!
  6. pytron

    pytron Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Seattle, WA

    That was incredible. I've never seen so much misleading and completely untrue garbage packed into one article. It's worse than a Brady press release!
  7. Rawlings

    Rawlings New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Ithaca, NY
    Where's John Stossel when you need him!!
  8. ZeroX

    ZeroX Active Member

    May 30, 2004
    Bloomington, IN
    If I didn't know better, I'd peg it for a parody article.
  9. Amish_Bill

    Amish_Bill Participating Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    atl ga
    Is it a surprise that I can't find a way to offer direct feedback from that page?

    At least the lies / innacuracies the BBC printed were well written.
  10. tyme

    tyme Senior Member

    Dec 19, 2002
  11. ScottsGT

    ScottsGT Participating Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Columbia, SC
    "In the hands of criminals, any of these weapons can be deadly."

    Then get the damned criminals off the street and leave my guns alone!:fire: :cuss:

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