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NY Gun Owners Threatening Non-Compliance With New Gun Control Laws

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Justin, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. General Geoff

    General Geoff Well-Known Member

    You make for a very large, tight-knit group of banned weapon owners, and only take them out to the range in concert. It's one thing for an officer to arrest one or two guys with rifles. It's entirely another when there's 20, 50, or a hundred of them. Nobody (law enforcement included) wants to be the guy who fires the first shot of a civil war.
  2. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    According to the Small Arms Survey, tens of millions of people worldwide have chosen to ignore registration laws, as apparently have quite a number in your home state of New Jersey, as discussed below.

  3. Zombiphobia

    Zombiphobia Well-Known Member

    And you can choose to be a sheep and let your government take away your freedoms and liberties, or you can choose to resist and tell your government, "No, you work for ME, not the other way around."

    I choose to resist.

    One of the consequences of choosing to let your government rule you is that they will eventually take everything you have, piece by piece.

    Why do you choose to be afraid of what your government will do to you for exercising your right to bear arms?
  4. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    More succinctly, do you live on your knees as a coward?

    Or die on your feet, like a free man.
  5. Prophet

    Prophet Well-Known Member

    No matter the consequences, what they're doing is American. Our forefathers would be proud.

    ... and for the record. Mocha Iced Coffee. From Sheetz. We're all bitter from the cold winters here in PA (all of that white-knucked clinging to guns and religion doesn't help either I imagine). Makes us mean enough to drink our coffee frozen all but solid. Even when we do decide to drink it hot it ends up cold as it's poured from the thermos to the mug anyway. :D
  6. Jaxondog

    Jaxondog Well-Known Member

    That's what they are counting on is for us to bow down and roll over like you. I hope the rest of the "People's Republic of New Jersey" has some larger acorn's than your's. I'm sure the brave men of the Boston Tea Party had wive's and children to think about as they stood up and fought for what they thought was right. Just think where we would be if they had'nt. If we don't stand up and fight back, we are coward's. I'm not one.
  7. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    Prove it.

    Unless she has proof that I own it, which my ex does not, her word doesn't mean jack.

    Search, little minions, search until you are blue in the face with wariness.

    You'll never catch me.

    Edit to add: You tout yourself as from the "People's Republic of New Jersey" as if in disdain for the state itself or maybe just partially unsettled by its "blueness". However, you seem to embrace the backwards mentality that makes that very state a "RepubliK". I'm nary confused, but now I admit I am.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2013
  8. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    I am sad to see so much talk on all gun boards to the effect of "well thats NY's problem, they voted them in, they can deal with it". I assure you, any state in the Union with a large city or a growing city population can and will have the same problems we are having here. 80+ percent of the State's geographic land mass is dominated by ONE CITY. Our politicians pander to them because THAT is where they fund raise. Upstate is outnumbered more than 2 to 1 at the polls. WE are not represented by people whom we vote for at high offices.

    Ben Franklin said it best-

    we must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.

    NY will NOT be an isolated event. We will be the proving grounds on the viability of this legislation. I don't care what you think of your state's population and voting habits now- This will come to you in your time or in the time of your children.

    We all need to ditch the lone-wolf mentality and get on the same page here.

    I personally think this article hurts us. It is an attempt at discrediting the gun lobby as would-be criminals, people on the fringe who disobey laws. This battle will be fought in the courts, and we will do our best to keep trying to elect good officials that will represent us, but this had bi-partisan support- some of which had A ratings from the NRA (skelos was an A in 2010).

    I am an Upstater- born and raised. I was raised in CNY, and educated in NYC and now live in WNY. I have seen much of the political climate of NYS and had a better opportunity than most to participate to the best of my ability in trying to support a government that I believe represents me. Please- do not give up on NYS, and do not write us off. I'm not asking you to give your money to our legal funds (though you can if you want) nor am I asking you to move here and help us win the polls with sheer numbers. I am asking you for your verbal, outward support.

    We in NYS will fight as hard as we can to beat this legislation- but please don't leave us out in the cold. I don't think we could do anything worse than infighting on the eve of federal legislation, that I would bet is closely watching how things shake out in New York.
  9. xxjumbojimboxx

    xxjumbojimboxx Well-Known Member

    Congratulations New York, for having some stones...
    Unfortunatly for you the yankee's still suck. (please dont relaliate with anything pertaining to our last season. we know..)

    Red Sox fan who grew up in BOSTON
  10. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Well-Known Member

    I don't think anyone is leaving anyone out in the cold. I think the general consensus from most states is "stand up for your rights". NY is the proving ground, I just hope the gun owners don't back down.
  11. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    I will say this- it was freezing at the Buffalo rally last week- but we were there in force. Here's hoping we can beat this.
  12. General Geoff

    General Geoff Well-Known Member

    Disobedience is what this nation was founded on. I can't think of anything more American.
  13. SouthernYankee

    SouthernYankee Well-Known Member


    First, let me makes this clear, Tea, cream no sugar. With that out of the way, I have saved my FID card from the Peoples Republic of MA. that I had to get when I was in High School in the 70's or get a year in jail for possession of even a BB gun. Prior to that when I got my first .22 in grade school we would open carry on our way, multiple .22's, to the dump to shoot rats. Or, even leave them on the front yard while we squeezed in a quick Street Hockey game. No one ever hurt, bullets kept in our pockets while we lived like American Boy's. In forty years I have seen incredible gov't creep. Don't ever believe "This will be enough...", right! "We'll keep you safe.", right! Look at all the gov't lies from accounting games to outright failed programs we can see but they say we just don't really understand, right! The gov't wants to grow, to do that it needs power, to do that it needs your rights. Our Founders were keenly aware of what concentrated power lead to and knew the only remedy for free people to resist such tyranny was to give the governing forces pause by facing an armed citizenry. Simple principle with very simple results. Worked well for the first 200+ yrs. and I don't see a compelling argument for switching horses now.
  14. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    Martin Luther King Jr. Day seems an appropriate time to extol the virtues of civil disobedience.
  15. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    While this NY ban doesn't effect me (yet), I do hope the best for them. The best outcome would be such massive non-compliance would result in the folks in charge seeing they have legislated against the will of the people and changing course.
  16. jamesbeat

    jamesbeat Well-Known Member

    This is bizarre.

    A discussion about the real possibility of mass civil disobedience, possibly a monumental and historic occasion, interspersed with a frivolous discussion about coffee?
  17. BHP FAN

    BHP FAN Well-Known Member

    I too live ''upstate'', I feel your pain. I live in a little red corner of upper California, almost to Oregon, and my vote does not count for jack. I STILL stubbornly vote every time, but it doesn't mean much to anyone but me.
  18. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    I agree civil disobedience is crucial but I am trying to consider all ways information will be leveraged against us
  19. Texshooter

    Texshooter Well-Known Member

    Resist now!

    Thank God, Martin Luther King stood up against unjust "laws."

    To defy the law in a civil way will win this fight.
  20. sfed

    sfed Well-Known Member

    What part of "not be infringed upon" do they not understand?? Limiting New York Residents to 7 rounds IS infringing on their 2nd amendment rights!!!!

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