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NY Mayor Bloomberg: Wine, yes. Beer, no.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Monkeyleg, Jul 13, 2003.

  1. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Mentor

    Dec 25, 2002
    Decatur, AL
    NYC Mayor Bloomberg uncorks a brouhaha

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Ahhh, the joys of a summer day, when the toughest decision might be the choice between a perfectly chilled bottle of wine and an ice cold beer.

    That choice might be a little easier these days in New York City, where Mayor Michael Bloomberg uncorked a brouhaha by suggesting that while drinking wine in the park with the symphony is fine, beer and the beach just don't mix.

    The comment has set off allegations of snobbery and classism, a problem for the billionaire mayor who was already perceived by many New Yorkers as unable to relate to them and their problems.

    The whole mess started on the Fourth of July, when people hosting a fund-raiser on Rockaway Beach in Brooklyn for memorials to World Trade Center victims were rousted by police for drinking beer.

    The city's open-container law bans alcohol in parks and beaches.

    A few days later, thousands of people sipped wine in Central and Prospect parks as they listened to the New York Philharmonic, the nation's oldest orchestra, during free performances followed by fireworks. Police did not issue a single citation.

    A photograph on the front page of the Daily News the morning after the Prospect Park concert showed Bloomberg sitting on the lawn next to music lovers imbibing wine. One concertgoer, according to the paper, even offered the mayor a shot of vodka -- which was politely declined.

    Bloomberg said that enforcement of public drinking laws is at the discretion of individual police officers and that his neighbors in the park were "behaving."

    He said inebriated people on the beach run a much greater risk of harming themselves, as opposed to those who drink in the more placid confines of the park.

    "I don't know of anybody that's drowned in a tuba recently," Bloomberg declared when asked about the discrepancy.

    Parks Commissioner Adrian Benepe said drinking wine in the parks when the symphony plays is a cherished rite of summer in the city.

    "There happens to be a four-decade tradition of Philharmonics in the park," Benepe said. "The tradition has been that people have come out and have a bottle of wine ... There have never been problems related to that."

    It's not fair, some New Yorkers say.

    "Clearly, there's a class bias," said Doug Muzzio, a political science professor at Baruch College. "Bloomberg is from the Chablis and brie set, not the beer and burger set."

    The idea that beer is the brew of the lower classes is not new: In about 350, the Roman Empire denounced beer as "the brew of barbarians."

    Wine lovers say many beer drinkers revel in what is sometimes a crude image, in television commercials, at keg parties or on T-shirts.

    "Listen, there is no equivalent for wine of that 'Reasons Why Beer is Better than Women' T-shirt," said Alan Roberts, a Manhattan salesman who bought a bottle each of cabernet sauvignon and pinot grigio at a downtown liquor store.

    But Jon Bloostein, owner of the upscale Heartland Brewery and Chop House chain, said that as the quality of beer continues to increase, prejudice against beer drinkers diminishes.

    "There isn't the same kind of snob appeal with wine-drinkers that there once was," he said.

    Counters Roberts: "Bacchus is the god of wine, but there is no god of beer, unless you count Homer Simpson."
  2. Mike Irwin

    Mike Irwin Mentor

    Dec 22, 2002
    Below the Manson-Nixon line in Virginia...
    ""There happens to be a four-decade tradition of Philharmonics in the park,"

    And that excuses a violation of city code how?
  3. Bruce H

    Bruce H Participating Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    North Mo.
    So the next time they have a concert in the park everybody show up with a paper bag covered ripple bottle.
  4. Greg L

    Greg L Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Northern KY
    With appologies to Art's Grandmaw...

    From those of us here in flyover country...

  5. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA

    I'm too much a Redneck to appreciate elitist snobs. The wine and brie set includes those who don't get their hands dirty because they're too incompetent to do anything useful.

    (Boy, could I go on a rant!)

    :), Art
  6. foghornl

    foghornl Mentor

    Dec 27, 2002
    Bloomberg seems to have that "flower disease"...

    He is a Bloomin' Idiot :evil:
  7. Carlos Cabeza

    Carlos Cabeza Participating Member

    Jan 2, 2003
    Okie City, OK.
    Who chugs wine anyway?:D Me, I prefer the fun crowd !:cool:
  8. Nathaniel Firethorn

    Nathaniel Firethorn Participating Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Exit 8A, Peoples' Republic of Corzinistan
    Those guys obviously haven't run into beer snobs...

    - pdmoderator
  9. CZ-75

    CZ-75 member

    Jan 2, 2003
    I've bought beer that costs as much as a good bottle of a better table wine, usually from Belgium.

    Vodka wasn't exactly a upper-end drink until Absolut and a few other brands started hyping it. I guess you can now find vodka drinkers at the philharmonic in the park AND in the gutter.
  10. mercedesrules

    mercedesrules Participating Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    What a bald-faced tyrant! :mad: :mad: :mad:

  11. .45Ruger

    .45Ruger Member

    Jan 2, 2003
    Phoenix Arizona
    Man the double standards never seem to end. It's only okay if your an elitest snob, but joe kixacks no telcome.

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