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Obama Desecrates Constitution

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Lobotomy Boy, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. Lobotomy Boy

    Lobotomy Boy Well-Known Member

    From thehill.com:

    In other words, Obama supported a township's blatant disregard for the Constitution (nothing unequivocal or ambiguous about a local ordinance prohibiting private gun ownership). This is as much an act of unconstitutional tyranny as a township banning all printed material or reinstituting slavery, yet Obama voted to support it. How could anyone who values liberty over tyranny even contemplate voting for Obama after something like this?
  2. strat81

    strat81 Well-Known Member

    *** is it with this "gun show loophole"??? How many crimes are committed with guns purchased from gun shows? I have to imagine it's an incredibly small percentage compared to how many are purchased for legal use.
  3. mike101

    mike101 Well-Known Member

    "Taking assault weapons off the streets and closing the gun show loophole "

    On what streets are they finding all these assault weapons, and what gun show loophole? I thought you had to go through a NICS check, even at gun shows.
  4. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Mr. Obama, may a state, city, county, township prohibit African-Americans or Muslims from voting, maintaining a domicile there, or traveling to such a place? If not, why not and how is this different than denying everyone their right to keep and bear arms?
  5. Tim James

    Tim James Well-Known Member

    Not really the Constitution, but more like natural moral law.

    You have to wonder if these people even think things through before they speak. If you suggested that the local town ban gay people for fear of pedophiles, you'd get a completely confused look. [EDIT] Okay I see that we've got this angle covered :)

    It's fine if you hate guns, but don't try to use fundamental concepts of government control to argue your position.
  6. Ratzinger_p38

    Ratzinger_p38 Well-Known Member

    I still think Obama cant win. His campaign looks bad, takes no positions on anything (his book was full of non denial denials) and I think the MSM is loosing interest in him.
  7. Daniel T

    Daniel T Well-Known Member

    "Gun show loophole" is a catch-phrase that gun-grabbers use for "private-party transfer".

    In other words, the "loophole" is that the government doesn't get to stick its nose in the matter if a gun is sold from one private citizen to another.
  8. eliphalet

    eliphalet Well-Known Member

    100% correct,
    and if you think that all the records of gun purchases that has ran through the FBI database in the last few years have disappeared I know of some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you..
    I know backup/prove that statement, show us the facts, as you well know no one outside the inner circles in some top secret office can or could but everything is computer driven nowa days and computer records seem to have a way of being found and resurrected even when deleted.
  9. Chad

    Chad Well-Known Member

    Obama makes great political hay from the fact that he is a 'Constitutional lawyer' and 'Constitutional scholar'.

    He has studied very diligently in order to find ways to circumvent the Constitution, apparently.
  10. Ratzinger_p38

    Ratzinger_p38 Well-Known Member

    Slow down guys. The most recent McCarthy and other bills define a gun show as '75 or more guns available' so what that means is person to person sales are OK, just as long as you arent PP 75 guns :p

    Private purchases will be safe for awhile I think, between you and your neighbor, but not between you and the dude at the gun show

    (I dont like them anyway as it will kill gun shows)
  11. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    So, we have to have lots of mini-shows?:rolleyes:
  12. Chad

    Chad Well-Known Member

    I don't believe every .gov agency is full of fools.
    Only a fool would take valuable data in hand and destroy it utterly, without backing it up, just because it was the law.
  13. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    While I oppose efforts to prevent private sales at gun shows, it won't kill them. California has a good number of gun shows. Here, you have a fee, paperwork and a 10-day waiting period even on guns bought PP.

    Why do I bring this up? If you use it as an argument, the other side will point out what I just did.
  14. xd9fan

    xd9fan Well-Known Member

    he sounds like McCain.....oh wait which party again???
  15. SDC

    SDC Well-Known Member

    And if they think they've blocked that imaginary "gun show loophole", then they'll move onto the "living room loophole", and the "friend's house loophole".
  16. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Well-Known Member

    Lets first work on closing the "ATF loophole" where that outrageous "sporting purposes" junk slipped through and forbid us from owning weapons that we have a right to. I want my M240. And don't you dare use the N-word (need)!
  17. Lobotomy Boy

    Lobotomy Boy Well-Known Member

    This terrible situation will smoke out all the anti-Second Amendment tendencies these people have. A few of the more goulish organizations like the Brady Bunch are trying to exploit this, but anyone who hopes to win a national election is keeping pretty quiet.
  18. Autolycus

    Autolycus Well-Known Member

    Why shouldn't the local government havethe ability to regulate guns on a local level even if it is unconstitutional? But when the Feds try to force national CCW reciprocity it is a bad idea and unconstitutional?
  19. Mannix

    Mannix Well-Known Member

    Laws outright banning the private ownership of guns are unconstitutional, there are numerous cases confirming that WE AS AMERICAN CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. I don't care what level it's at, it's still against the very principles upon which our country was founded, and by which it has been governed for over 200 years.

    If they can say that people are too irresponsible to handle owning a firearm, what next? Perhaps we then can't discern fantasy from reality and violent television and video games get censored. Perhaps we need to be protected from so called "Anti-American" music and literature. Hell while we're at it apparently we can't be trusted to make a good political decision so there goes the right to vote.(sure I'm stretching it, but you know what I mean)

    What makes this country, in my opinion, better than any other is that we consider our citizens to be able to handle freedom responsibly. There have been some trends recently that I find troubling, and not just from the left.
  20. velojym

    velojym Well-Known Member

    As his preference seems to favor keeping guns in the hands of the rich and famous (Rosie, for instance), he's standing shoulder to shoulder with the Klan on the gun control issue. Can't be lettin' po' folks and darkies keep guns around, no Sir! Harder to lynch armed slaves, Masuh!

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