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Obama, on gun control.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Old Fuff, Jan 27, 2011.

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  1. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Senior Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    According to the leftist Huffington Post, White House insiders are telling selected people that the President is ready to jump into the gun control debate at some unspecified future time. It is explained that he didn't bring up the issue during his recent State of the Union speech because he wanted to focus on jobs and other related economic subjects.

    While apparently president Obama considers gun control to be something on his back burner for now, all he is looking for is an opportunity to being it forward.

  2. HoosierQ

    HoosierQ Senior Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Central Indiana.
    Assuming of cours the Huffington post, which is left MSM, is actually properly informed.

    Regardless, the recent elections behind us, as well as Heller and McDonald, this is a political non-starter.

    I guess where I am going is: How well has Washington really jumped on the Obama bandwagon? I mean really? He got Healthcare through by a wisker but he'd never do it today. And it got repealed...at least in the House.

    I've said it before: Ronald Reagan hated some other subjects like poison but was not able to get the Supreme Court overturned...and his issued did not have cases and a Bill of Rights Ammendment backing it up.

    So yes everyone, write, join, oppose, and fight for our rights. Politicians have been promoting gun control as long as there have been guns and/or politicians. God bless the founding fathers and the First Ammendment so we can suppor the Second.
  3. zhyla

    zhyla Active Member

    Jul 12, 2009
    I'm tired of hearing about Obama and gun control from gullible, paranoid people. Let me know when something actually makes it out of his mouth.
  4. X-Rap

    X-Rap Mentor

    Sep 23, 2006
    Chris Matthews stated the same on SOTN eve when the rest of the panel were complaining on how there was going to be no comment on gun control in the message.
    For those who think we have such an upper hand, take a look at the news sources and see if you see an uptick in reports on
    Assault rifles
    Guns to Mexico/smuggling
    Police shootings
    Politicians who favor gun control/have changed their views to favor gun control
    The press is complicit in this buy conspiracy or stupidity and they will be rolling out the case prior to any public statement from the WH.
    For those who doubt the power of the press or their bias, anybody remember Gitmo, Iraq, Afganistan, NKorea, Iranian Nukes?

    HGUNHNTR Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2006
    ^ No doubt, this has been the most positive presidential term for gun owners in decades.
  6. Onward Allusion

    Onward Allusion Senior Member

    Mar 22, 2009
    IN between
    It blows me away that gun owners believe a Republican Congress automatically means gun control is a moot point. Things change easily in politics and I for one will not stop writing our politicians.
  7. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Senior Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Stalingrad, USA
    Ditto. Special interests writhe on both sides of the isle. Watch 'em all closely.
  8. Weisbrot

    Weisbrot New Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Starting now


    "White House to Push Gun Control
    Obama intentionally did not mention gun control in his State of the Union, but aides say that in the next two weeks the administration will unveil a campaign to get Congress to toughen existing laws."

    After Fort Hood, the Obama administration's main focus was playing down negative
    publicity for the Muslim community. This shooting, however, has everything the
    administration needs- supposedly "right wing" shooter with supposed ties to
    supposed extremist groups, sympathy-arousing victims, shock value, ability to
    spark "moral" outrage. After the puke-inducing pep rally of a memorial this administration
    put on, the restraint they're showing here to wait two weeks is interesting. But
    there are a number of factors in play, including the upcoming election; they're
    walking the tightrope and gun control could be the balancing (or imbalancing)
    issue for the rest of the campaign.

    Gun control draws attention from health care, with the convenient tragedy to
    use as a lever. It also draws attention away from Obama's failures in foreign policy,
    including his abject submission to Israeli demands and cooperation with a criminal
    Karzai government in Afghanistan. It also masks his recent swing to the center,
    such as it is, allowing a respite from critics on the left.

    I've never been a "birther", but this issue seems to also be rearing up with some
    credible new information and angles. It's possible this will again become enough
    of an issue to make trouble for Obama's never-ending six-years-to-date 2012
    election campaign.

    Gun control could be seen as the pivot, grabbing valuable attention and resources
    from other efforts and criticisms on the right and left. Obama may fight hard
    on this, even if they don't expect to do more than win concessions. This could
    be a very dangerous time for Second Amendment rights- especially given that
    Fourth Amendment rights have now been shown to be nonexistent in the opinion
    of federal government. Watch closely...
  9. alsaqr

    alsaqr Senior Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    South Western, OK
    Very good post. i'll believe it when Obama says it.

    What "credible new Information'? WND is not "credible new information".
  10. rajb123

    rajb123 member

    Dec 22, 2010
    There is nothing new here. We have known Obama is a gun-grabber for years. The Chris Mattews blab was broadcast all over MSNBC and was intentionally leaked by the White House.

    I assume so-called assault rifles, big mag clips will be banned again and a new record keeping system will allow the feds to track ownership in the name of reducing Mexican cartel buys.

    Arizona scared all pols including conservatives and they always act in their self interests first.
  11. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Senior Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    When the Old Fuff started this thread he was well aware of the leftist nature of the Huffington Post, but it seems unlikely if the White House was going to discuss the issue they would seek out reporters from Fox News or The Washington Post.

    While this isn't exactly new or unexpected news, it does represent an update to an ongoing situation.

    For the most part, advocates of more restrictive gun control statutes are constituents of the Democrat or even further left-wing parties, and if representatives from the movement were at the White House, staffers could have been trying to assure them that they’re cause hadn’t been forgotten.

    My purpose is to remind those on our side that the threat likely hasn’t gone away, it’s only dormant. At the present time the issue is far below most people’s radar screens, but having lived through the late 1960’s era I am well aware that it can quickly come to the forefront if a series of incidents cause it to be elevated to the country’s attention. If that happens, and conditions are serious enough, it’s likely to not be a Democrats vs. Republicans sort of thing because if enough members from both sides join together they can get the job done.

    It would appear to me that “the other side” is positioning themselves to move if an opportunity gives them a chance at success. We would be wise to do the same.
  12. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA
    When bills are available for examination, we can then discuss the issues and omit the politics. The various political positions should already be quite well known, given the amount of publicity over these recent years.

    Enough for now.
  13. kingpin008

    kingpin008 Mentor

    Jun 6, 2006
    Howard County, Merry Land
    With all due respect, can we wait until Obama himself actually says something on the subject to discuss it? There have been a handful of threads on the subject since the SOU address, all dependent on someone-said-he-might-say-something. It's useless to discuss something that hasn't happened yet, and in fact may never happen at all.
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