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OK HB2513 passes State House

Discussion in 'Activism' started by mons meg, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. mons meg

    mons meg Well-Known Member

    But it's been watered down to only make exceptions for active duty military, honorably discharged veterans, and CLEET certified individuals.

    The best part? Republicans watered it down. But here's the line from CNN:

  2. Ske1etor

    Ske1etor Well-Known Member

    So it basically did nothing for your average everyday victim...
  3. romeo212000

    romeo212000 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. So there really is nothing to deter another NIU or VT situation from happening. I doubt they will be scared away by the idea that there is a very slight chance that a National Guard or Military personel might be on the campus. Way to accomplish nothing Oklahoma government.
  4. Shadowangel

    Shadowangel Well-Known Member

    Ugh. I had high hopes for that one. Oklahoma's a very pro-gun state..i'm surprised our politicians watered it down so much.
  5. romeo212000

    romeo212000 Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised it was the republicans who did so. It is very scary when even our republicans are watering down such an obviuosly beneficial pro gun bill.
  6. lacoochee

    lacoochee Well-Known Member

    Sucks that it was watered down, but it is definitely a step in the right direction. Next year go for all concealed weapons holders as well. BTW is it possible to obtain the following without actually being a LEO?

    others with firearms training certified by the Council on Law Enforcement Education who hold a state concealed weapons license

    Sounds like a good course to take anyways...

    And there is the provision that honourably discharged vets would also qualify, that's a lot of folks.

    Actually taken as a whole I think it's almost a good bill especially if anyone with a CCW can take the firearms certification, it's 1000% better than what we have in Florida.
  7. IDriveB5

    IDriveB5 Well-Known Member

    There is a poll on this page:

  8. jenrob

    jenrob Well-Known Member

    Should college students and faculty be allowed to carry concealed weapons on campus?
    Choice Votes Percentage of 801 Votes
    Yes 391 49%
    No 410 51%
  9. RoadkingLarry

    RoadkingLarry Well-Known Member

    I'm betting they got their marching orders from David Boren and did what good little sock puppets do,

    Tulsa World

    That is a pathetic statement and makes want to vomit.
  10. chrlefxtrt

    chrlefxtrt Well-Known Member

    Yes 643 58%
    No 471 42%

    I'm glad the poll is in "our" favor, but I hate how it is worded.
  11. Jdude

    Jdude Well-Known Member

    Seems like a partial victory. All it needs now, perhaps in the next session, is to include "all ccw holders." I think the hard part is already done.
  12. Blarelli

    Blarelli Well-Known Member

    I just don't get why administrators oppose guns on campus. They seem to encourage EVERYTHING else. Why should something as common as a gun be excluded when everything else being force-fed to us? As a student in Utah, I carry a gun on campus every day. And in each of my classes, i have seen at least one other person carrying (trendy clothes these days don't really help conceal a gun), and nobody's been shot yet. It really pisses me off when such simple logic escapes the PhD's.
  13. chrlefxtrt

    chrlefxtrt Well-Known Member

    because guns are bad 'mkay:neener:

    This is a step in the right direction. Allowing Guardsmen, Reservists, and Veterans to carry concealed will dramatically decrease the lethality of a gunman. People seem to forget that many folks join the reserves to help pay for school. When I was in school not only was I in the military but it seemed like atleast one other person in every class was in the guard, Reserves, or was a vet, Police Officer etc.

    I believe the Republicans watered it down because they knew it had a better chance of passing if they did so. This will set a precedent in our state. Even though it isn't as "liberal" as some would like, it really is better than nothing.
  14. Elm Creek Smith

    Elm Creek Smith Well-Known Member

    If this passes the state senate and Governor Henry signs it, I may have to go back to college. :) Those notification letters to college presidents will be fun to write. :D

  15. AR-15 Rep

    AR-15 Rep Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a step in the right direction, but with everything, there may have to be some measures to consider in allowing a larger number of persons to carry in that environment.

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