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OMG, This One's GREAT!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by E36M3, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. E36M3

    E36M3 Well-Known Member

  2. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    These two guys (John and John) are sitting ducks. They are dead in the water if the RNC wants to bring out the big guns.

    This is a good start.

    - Gabe
  3. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member


    Do you have a direct link to the file? I would like to download a copy of it instead of just stream it.
  4. E36M3

    E36M3 Well-Known Member

    Maybe on www.gop.com . I can't wait to give the finger to the next driver of a car with a Kerry bumper sticker on it. I wish I had thousands of fingers.
  5. Don't Tread On Me

    Don't Tread On Me Well-Known Member

    Excellent Video.

    Only bad part is, it is 11 some minutes long...too long for the short attention span of most Americans today.

    It does make a great 1 stop shop for all of Kerry's flip flops and makes an excellent case for how he says whatever to whomeven whenever in the true master politician way.
  6. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

  7. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    That's great, and the "war issue" seems to be first on the minds of most (network news informed) voters. But I'd sure like to see a similar expose on other issues as well.
  8. Combat-wombat

    Combat-wombat Well-Known Member

    I'm against the Iraq war, and I'm mostly against Bush- But that was still a great video. Although Badnarik is my ideal candidate, Bush is definitely the lesser of two evils against Kerry.
  9. Gordon Fink

    Gordon Fink Well-Known Member

    You all do realize that G. W. Bush also flip-flops on issues, don’t you?

    ~G. Fink
  10. E36M3

    E36M3 Well-Known Member

    Sure, but "Kerry vs. Bush" still = Bush.
  11. Gordon Fink

    Gordon Fink Well-Known Member

    Fine. Your cross to bear and all.

    ~G. Fink
  12. Third_Rail

    Third_Rail Well-Known Member

    It's nice to have this highlighted... but I'm still voting 3rd party.

    Being in MA, I can either vote to 3rd party and make a statement, or paddle upstream against Dems.

    I'll vote 3rd party, I believe.
  13. MP5

    MP5 Well-Known Member

    Makes me wonder: if Kerry decided to become a strong RKBA supporter, would that also be branded a flip-flop?
  14. firearms_instructor

    firearms_instructor Well-Known Member

    The GREAT thing about flip-flops is

    Kerry can claim to have supported each side of each issue, depending on who he's talking to. See, he can have it BOTH WAYS. A man for all seasons. Such unparalleled versatility, untrammelled by principle!
  15. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Well-Known Member

    Generally speaking folks don't follow a candidates stance on the issues
    over the long haul. That is why Kerry can go with the flow and still maintain credibility with the Democrat voters.

    Good video but I don't think it will do much good. Bush haters are a stubborn lot.
  16. stv

    stv Well-Known Member

    If Kerry ever flipped our way (pro-RKBA) then he could just as easily flip back after getting our votes. Once an anti, always an anti.
  17. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    Every professional politician is going to vascillate with some degree. Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to survive. That's just the way it is.

    I think Bush is far less fickle than most leaders tend to be. In fact, it is the strength of his convictions and his persistence to categorize things in black and white that have landed him so much criticism from his opponents.

    To paraphrase Giuliani, "...he has been pro war-on-terror when it was popular, and he has been pro war-on-terror when it wasn't popular. And I think that is what will get him re-elected."

    Kerry is no mere "typical" politician when it comes to changing his mind and waffling to gain political position, he is the all-time KING.
  18. Treylis

    Treylis Well-Known Member

    Haha, I'd need to see that backed up with lots and lots of actual action.
  19. Treylis

    Treylis Well-Known Member

    Paging Dr. Paul to the waiting room, paging Dr. Paul...
  20. MP5

    MP5 Well-Known Member

    When talking in general (not specifically about Kerry), that's unfair and demonstrably untrue. I know people who have modified/shifted their stance on the issue over the years. My own views have shifted from moderate RKBA support to a stronger, more inclusive position. (I shouldn't merely be able to purchase so-called "assault weapons" easily, but actual automatic assualt rifles, too, because I'm a peaceful person with no criminal record and therefore pose no threat to society, but rather try to do it good.)

    And if what you say is true, no one will ever change their minds, so there's no point struggling for the RKBA, is there? :) If you don't offer your opponents courtesy and the benefit of the doubt, fat chance of them ever taking your views seriously or wanting to side with you.

    Principles are great for guides, but what ultimately counts--at least in politics--is concrete words and deeds.

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