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OPEN CARRY TEXAS. Texans get in here!

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by thelaststand, May 6, 2014.

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  1. thelaststand

    thelaststand Well-Known Member

    Open Carry Texas

    Our goal is to promote a restoration of the traditional pro-gun culture of the great state of Texas. Thirty (30) other states within the USA have an unrestricted open carry ordinance. Less than 10 states completely ban the open carry of pistols, like Texas. Texas open carry laws are similar to a small group of anti-gun states like California and New York.

    Our argument is simple. Thirty other states allow their citizens to have unrestricted (no permit needed) open carry of pistols. Our neighbors, New Mexico and Arizona are such states. In these states there are no problems caused by open carry. We believe that Texans should not settle for being treated like second rate citizens, and we should demand our rights be restored under the Constitution of the United States and of Texas.

    The Texas constitution states:
    “Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”
    There is no evidence that shows that a ban on open carry of pistols has been able to prevent a single crime. The Texas legislature is only authorized to regulate the wearing of arms if such regulation were to actually prevent crime. Crime is not prevented when you ban law abiding citizens from open carrying firearms.

    Open Carry Texas is currently working on legislation to repeal the ban on open carry of handguns in Texas.
    Please join us

    main FACEBOOK page

    Closed group

    To find your local chapter's group search for "OCT: XXX" XXX = county name or large city. If you live in Tarrant county search "open carry texas tarrant county"

    MODERATOR NOTE: Folks, this is not a discussion of the personal opinion of OC from a defensive standpoint.

    It is a discussion of the effort to change TX law to allow OC from an Activism standpoing. Please stay focused on this issue and how it might be done, the beneficial effects from a 2A standpoint, and the negative effects from a 2A standpoint. Not whether OC is a good idea or not from a personal defensive standpoint (which is a discussion that's been done ad nauseum in General and Tactics). We have a laser like focus here in Activism and we need to maintain it so we don't wander off into dead ends and circles.
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  2. thelaststand

    thelaststand Well-Known Member

    Open Carry Texas is not a civil disobedience group. We are friendly with people, we open carry with unloaded chambers and we hand out fliers. We also work with the police and support officers who support our rights.

    Video of one of the walks
  3. Twiki357

    Twiki357 Well-Known Member

    I certainly agree with your efforts. Open carry here in Arizona has been legal for at least 20 years and I think more like 30 years. Not sure since I’ve only lived here for 12. In the 12 years that I have lived here, I’m not aware of any problem that’s occurred that involved open carry.
  4. FuzzyBunny

    FuzzyBunny Well-Known Member

    You might think of adding another site other than facebook.
    I know way too many shooters that will not touch facebook for many reasons.
  5. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Yup! I'm one.
  6. Agsalaska

    Agsalaska Well-Known Member

    First, I hope you can handle a little criticism. :)

    That being said, I hope your approach in Austin is not 'because everyone else is doing it.' Thats not going to work down there. You need to show actual benefit. Now that benefit doesnt have to be directed towards open carry. It can certainly be political as well. But it cant just be becasue everyone else is doing it. Thats not an incentive for a vote.
  7. thelaststand

    thelaststand Well-Known Member

    First, we do not rub our guns or rights in people's faces. *We educate, show people their rights and welcome them into the group.

    Second, the anti gun group in Texas is gaining members at 5% the rate of OCT. *the argument that we are motivating the antis is wrong.*

    Third, the traditional method of sitting on our butts and praying that Texas removes this unconstitutional ban has not worked for over 100 years. *That method failed and now it's time to try something else.

    Fourth, *this will get some libs to move out of the state and the news will scare them from moving here.
  8. thelaststand

    thelaststand Well-Known Member

    On the .org website there is an email that you can send to ask for information if you don't have Facebook.
  9. jdh

    jdh Well-Known Member

    While I wish you luck in your quest, it is my personal belief that your are burning a lot of political capitol that could best be spent on more productive efforts. One example would be the protection of Texas gun owners from federal agents over zealous enforcement actions.
  10. heycods

    heycods Well-Known Member

    Only problem I have with it is the no permit part. I know lots of hotheads I wouldnt feel safe with them open or concealed carrying. I legaly carry concealed, I personaly would love open carry while fishing hunting and general country carrying, I would never open carry while in town.
  11. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    I strongly favor that the law allows open carry. That said, demonstrations where people openly carry "to make a point" generate more bad publicity than they do good impressions. It's a media thing. TV and newspapers and the perceptions that they inculcate into their audiences.
  12. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Both Greg Abbot and Wendy Davis have said they support it. But I'd wager Wendy is lying!

    So it seems if it can get through the legislature next year it could actually happen.
  13. dogtown tom

    dogtown tom Well-Known Member

    Open Carry Texas seems to generate more negative "publicity" for gun rights than positive.
  14. dogtown tom

    dogtown tom Well-Known Member

    Uh what?:scrutiny:
  15. Agsalaska

    Agsalaska Well-Known Member

    I totally agree. It has been counterproductive. Message control is essential and y'all lose the message when that happens. There are better ways.
  16. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Ahhh yes, the standard "blood will flow in the streets" argument that we hear so often. Funny how the 30 states that have no permit required open carry have no issues - but you must have an exceptionally large population of hotheads in Texas compared to the other 30 states? Or maybe your population in Texas is just more violent than the other 30 states? And, of course, the answer to the problem that does not exist must be the ever popular government permission slip....
  17. Kleanbore

    Kleanbore Moderator


    Same result in municipalities in Missouri.

    We have a very large number of virulently anti-gun people in the big cities here. Many of them still strongly resent the enactment of shall-issue concealed carry legislation, with state preemption, a decade ago--even though no one can point to any negative effects. "Wild West", and so on.

    Television opposition to concealed carry seems to have died down, but editorialists for news"paper" links remain smuggly opposed.

    It spills over into opposition of castle doctrine and so on. I know people who cannot seem to refrain from speaking ill of Florida, Texas, and outstate Missouri for gun and SD related reasons.

    Ironically, almost all of them visualize Texas as havlng open carriers all over the place.

    I like to watch their faces when I tell them that they must not have been keeping up with the news, that open carry was outlawed in Texas a hundred years ago, and that one is more likely to see open carriers in Seattle.
  18. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    Good luck Texans! Don't ever give up the fight!
  19. jbrown50

    jbrown50 Well-Known Member

    I personally prefer to conceal carry but I also strongly favor the legalization of open carry without the need for a permit. I see no problems with citizens open carrying. There are already laws in place banning the misuse of firearms and open carriers won't be any less lawful than any other responsible citizen.

    I've open carried at organized events and will do so again in the future. I definitely think it should be pushed forward but please be cautious to not give the anti-gun folks anything to use against it.
  20. jdh

    jdh Well-Known Member

    Extreme example, Waco.
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