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opinions on small 9mm pistols?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tuj, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. wow6599

    wow6599 Well-Known Member

    Which other 5 did you like less?
  2. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    If that were the case, I'd recommend the CZ82.
  3. beatledog7

    beatledog7 Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget then that the .380 is also a 9mm round.
  4. WYO

    WYO Well-Known Member

    You can read the forums on any of the micro nines (ok, maybe not Rohrbaugh) and see all the horror stories. Failures to feed. Failures to eject. Double feeds. People think they can buy a 9mm micro gun and treat it like a Glock 17 right out of the box. It doesn’t work that way. It is a 35,000 psi round and the small guns operate at the extreme limits of firearms design. The nines can’t be designed like a pot metal .25 from back in the day and be expected to hold up. They have stiff recoil springs and tight tolerances. Try the slide to frame fit on a new Sig P938 or a Beretta Nano. They come out of the box as tight as a tuned 1911. They have a tendency to like heavier ammo at higher velocities. They need to rely on grip and body pressure to provide some resistance for correct operation to make up for the lack of gun mass. They really like lubrication. (I am not a Kahr guy because of a bad experience, but a buddy with a CM9 suggested I break in my P938 like he did his Kahr, with lube dripping out of the gun and down my arms.) It just takes a little bit of effort to break them in and learn their characteristics.

    The sights on my P938 are awesome and make it a genuine 25+ yard gun even though I only can get 2 fingers on the grip. But, that doesn’t mean I should expect it to run through a 600 round pistol class without cleaning like a Glock. If I can get through 50 rounds of 124 grain Gold Dots without an issue, I am happy and don’t try to push it. I don’t have 50 rounds worth of magazines for it. Some people get upset because they expect it to function through the 600 round class without cleaning. The complaints seem to drop off noticeably with Glock 26/S&W Shield sized guns.

  5. breakingcontact

    breakingcontact Well-Known Member

  6. heeler

    heeler Well-Known Member

    There are so many good ones out there to choose from today.
    Even more so than three years ago when I bought my superb PM9.
    Of course most can be handled but not all can be fired unless you have a lot of friends that own them or have a place that rents them.
    As in most major ticket/dollar purchases reading owner reviews is very helpful.
  7. Teachu2

    Teachu2 Well-Known Member

    Amen to that!
  8. srtolly

    srtolly Well-Known Member

    Find someplace to try them out. A lot of people don't like a KelTec PF9, I like mine for carry. Easy to pocket carry, takes a little getting used to the trigger, mine has seen several hundred rounds down the barrel and has never failed except 1 time due to a bad crimp on one of my reloads.
  9. Nite Ryder

    Nite Ryder Well-Known Member

    About three months ago I bought a Diamondback DB9. I've shot it several times but to tell the truth I'm not all that impressed. It's small, just a bit larger than my KelTec 380, and at 11 oz you hardly know it is in your pocket. I still use my Kimber Ultra Carry for an everyday carry gun, and keep either the KelTec or Diamondback in a hip pocket for a back up gun. The recoil of the Diamondback is quite a bit, and I just can't shoot it as well as I can the Kimber. I'm speaking of accuracy beyond 15 yards...
  10. crackerjack

    crackerjack Well-Known Member

    Take a look and feel the SCCY model CPX-2 it's fairly new but I'm very impressed with the one I purchased.
  11. xxjumbojimboxx

    xxjumbojimboxx Well-Known Member

    Kel tec p11
    Kel tec pf9
    Ruger Lc9
    Bersa thunder Ultra Compact 9(i did really like the trigger on this one.)

    Er.. I guess it was four. Those are the ones I've owned... The fifth would be my sr9c :)
  12. s9601694

    s9601694 Well-Known Member

    I bought my Kahr CM9 online without even ever touching one.. Love at first sight, great little shooter, only i think my wife is stealing her from me...
  13. PGT

    PGT Well-Known Member

    I just bought an SCCY CPX-1 and a Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact Pro 9. The Bersa is larger (13+1) and not a single stack but has a really nice trigger. Its also SAO/DAO. The SCCY is DAO and the trigger is heavy (good thing in CC of course). I think I might sell the SCCY....I really want a Boberg XR9-S.

  14. kokapelli

    kokapelli Well-Known Member

    What don't you like about the SCCY?
  15. autospike

    autospike Well-Known Member

    1) Shield
    2) PPS
    3) PM9
  16. Alnamvet68

    Alnamvet68 Well-Known Member

    There are a number of adequate sub-compacts out there, but after looking, handling, and shooting most of them, I have distilled it down to two, and only two, that pass my stringent criteria....Walther PPS and the S&W Shield. I chose the PPS, and the primary reason is the accessory rail, and the readily apparent of why the Walther PPS costs about $150.00 more then a Shield. That said, if you never plan on using the accessory rail, and just don't want to spend the extra cash, then the Shield will do fine.
  17. Fishbed77

    Fishbed77 Well-Known Member

    I love my Kahr CM9.

    It's the right size and has been 100% reliable. Also only cost me $327 new.
  18. silicosys4

    silicosys4 Well-Known Member

    There are some valid points in there, but most of the problems you are talking about were design flaws in older pistols, such as the tiny .45 1911's and such that were designed as bigger pistols then modified...they do have a lot of problems.
    The newer pocket semi's are designed from the ground up to be smaller and are not "at the limit of their designs".
    The reliability issues are by and large a thing of the past.
    It sounds like your 938 has some issues that need attention, you should be able to get more than 50 rounds out without any issues.

    I have a few "pocket" semi's, both 9mm and .40S&W. Some of them have had issues, some of them haven't. Some designs are better than others.
    for a "pocket" gun that NEEDS to go bang when its put into service, I would rather trust a small .38 or .357 revolver.
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2013
  19. PGT

    PGT Well-Known Member

    it just doesn't feel good in my hand. Compared to the Bersa, it has a long trigger pull. Overall, it looks like a nicely made gun and one can't argue with the price. I put it up for sale here on THR an hour or so ago....if nobody is interested, I'll keep it but if I can sell it, I'll order a Boberg.
  20. kokapelli

    kokapelli Well-Known Member

    Ok thanks, I have never seen one and just wondered about it.

    I have had some good reliable guns hat just didn't fit me either and ended up selling them too.

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