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opinions on small 9mm pistols?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tuj, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    How do you like your PCR?
  2. larryh1108

    larryh1108 Well-Known Member

    I love the PCR. I have a lot of 9mms and it is my favorite to shoot. Reliable and accurate and only a little heavier than the Solo and PM9 but it is a little bigger as well. I didn't like the DA/SA at first but once I got used to it and carried it at half cock it was a very nice carry. The slide inside the frame fit seems to give it less felt recoil and I am the most accurate with it with all my 9mms. It is the easiest to shoot. It would be my last 9mm if I pared it down to one. That says a lot since I have several BHPs and a 1911 in 9mm. I'm still undecided on the Solo because I haven't had it very long.
  3. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member

    The Boberg is really beautifull. It's a nice gun that's for sure.

    For the Rorbaugh, I know that most people do not like the heel release for the magazine, on the other hand - there is no way that magazine can be released by bumping it while carrying, and also when you're firing the R9, there is no mag release button to hit and release the magazine accidentally, nor is there a slide stop to accidentally push up on which will obviously stop the operation.

    But if those aren't issues, the PM9/CM9 and MK9 are great little guns, a lot less finicky about ammo, and will stand up to +P
  4. jimbo555

    jimbo555 Well-Known Member

    It looks like that Boberg would fall right out of a holster!
  5. dbp

    dbp Well-Known Member

    I like my Beretta Nano. I've only put 350 rds through it, but with no problems other than two FTE early on that were caused by my lack of a good grip. I put a set of Tractiongrips on it and that has made a noticeable difference in grip and control.

    It is a good 10 yd and in defensive gun. I am not quite as accurate with it as I am with my G26, but that is probably the shooter more so than the gun.

    Fits in the pocket nicely and just has a nice solid feel to it. I can see it getting a lot of carry time this summer.
  6. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    I have done some shooting with a Sig P239 and think it an excellent choice in a single stack pistol.
    I have a G26 Glock and use mine with G19 15 shot magazines for a package not much bigger,.
  7. TennJed

    TennJed Well-Known Member

    I am a big fan on my Sig P290. Here are a few comparision pics of it with a
    Taurus TCP (380)
    Ruger LCP




  8. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member


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  9. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member

    Do the Bobergs come with the lines in the grip like that? I don't know what to call it.. it's scalloping, its not checkering..

    anyway do the Bobergs come like that?

    That's one thing I wish Rohrbaugh did to the R9s at the factory, these are tiny little guns and checkering helps controlability.
  10. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    Are these even +p rated? Why does the manufacturer suggest recoil spring change every 200 rounds?
  11. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    "Are these even +p rated? Why does the manufacturer suggest recoil spring change every 200 rounds?"

    No, but +P isn't all it's cracked up to be, especially from a very short barrel. Heck, it isn't much of an improvement out of a 4" or 5" barrel - check the ammo makers' specs. Replacing the spring is recommended because it has a relatively light slide and might just wear out the spring that quickly. I paid $4.95 each for replacement springs from Rohrbaugh.

    I've carried mine since early '07 and it was slightly used. Looking at the current prices, if I sold mine I'd get all of my money back. Plus some.

  12. kokapelli

    kokapelli Well-Known Member

    The weight of the slide has nothing to do with recoil spring wear. The number of cycles of a spring is what causes wear.
  13. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member

    There are people who have used the same spring for more than 500 rounds and have had no negative side effects from it, but bottom line the manufacturer recommends replacing the spring every 200 rounds.

    It's a 5 dollar part so I don't see the big deal.

    Also, it's not like I take this gun to the range and put 200 rounds through it every weekend.

    It is going to sit in my pocket. I will fire maybe 3 magazines through it every other weekend to keep my skills up with it. Replacing the recoil spring every 9 or 10 months is no big deal to me.

    It's not rated for Plus P but I don't even fire +P through my full sized nines so I don't see how that effects me. The round that I like to use for SD is the 147gr Winchester Ranger "T" RA9T.


    So far the R9 cycles the 147gr Ranger "T" just fine, so I'm happy.
  14. tuj

    tuj Well-Known Member

    what do you guys think of the SCCY CPX-2?
  15. Roadking Rider

    Roadking Rider Well-Known Member

    CM/PM9 from Kahr.
  16. Rembrandt

    Rembrandt Well-Known Member

    Boberg's all come with the same grip design...they are available in different colors.

    Since so few are in the publics hands, it may be awhile before we see aftermarket grips available. Wish Crimson Trace made some.....sure it's a matter of time.
  17. TonyT

    TonyT Well-Known Member

    I purchsed a Kahr PM-9 a number of years ago before the Ruger product was introduced . I carry it in a pocket holster. My PM-9 has been reliable and I can easilly place 7 shots into a ca 3 inch group at 7 to 10 yards.
  18. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    "The weight of the slide has nothing to do with recoil spring wear. The number of cycles of a spring is what causes wear."

    Okay, you talk to Karl. :) I thought he said he was a delicate balancing act to match the size/weight of the slide to the room available for the spring. Bigger, longer lasting spring takes up more space, so you need to design a larger slide, etc.

    I dunno, I only know what I read on the Rohrbaugh forum. And I've actually installed new springs in an R9 and it's a handful with the tolerances being so close.

  19. WRGADog

    WRGADog Well-Known Member

    I own several small 9mm pistols,

    a Beretta Nano, Kahr PM9, Kimber Solo, and Walther PPS. They are all excellent firearms, reliable, accurate, easy to maintain. I rotate carrying each of the pistols, and wouldn't part with any of the pistols. My favorite is the PPS, but IMO it is a belt gun because of its weight. The PPS can be pocket carried with the six round mag, but again it is heavy. The Nano, PM9, and Solo are each easy to conceal and pocket carry using a DeSantis Nemisis holster. I have had no problems with any of the pistols and each has ~500 rounds down range.
  20. breakingcontact

    breakingcontact Well-Known Member

    I havent shot one but that Kimber Solo is one great looking gun. It is smaller in real life than the advertisements can relate.

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