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Parents agreed to help me get a Deer rifle Some Suggestions Please

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Almond27, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. Almond27

    Almond27 Well-Known Member

    Hi, my parents have decided to help me get a deer rifle as an early Christmas present since I completed the TN hunter Safety course and expressed a desire to hunt. I found a guy who is willing to take me Thanksgiving weekend and have to find a rifle pretty quick and it will probably have to be a used one, which I don't have a problem with. They are willing to give me right around $300 max and I know I could most likely obtain a .30-30 for around this price range but would really like to obtain something with a little more power since I will be shooting in open fields on the 250 acre farm. There is also a some wooded area on the farm. Thanks for time and suggestions.
  2. JimmAr

    JimmAr Well-Known Member

    I have to say 30-30 is your best bet...its killed more deer then any other cartridge known to man..levers are easy and accurate marlin and winchester makes good on their products, however if your hell bent and stubborn as I was when I was younger...

    If you can find a used bolt action with iron sights in 270 Win for around 300 dollars.. id grab it.. preferable brand Winchester, or good ol' Remington.

    I myself for cheap purposes enjoy the Mosin's and Mauser's of world war 2.. id shoulder a few and see what feels right before picking anything up.
  3. ECVMatt

    ECVMatt Well-Known Member

    You might take a look at the Stevens 200 or the Marlin XL7

    The 200 are usually on sale for under 300 bucks and here the Marlins are right there with them.

    You will have to add a scope though and that might take you over your limit.

    Don't feel handicapped with a good scoped .30-30. I would not recommend taking long shots anyways. You need lots of practice to pull those off. I wise gentleman once suggested that you fire one round of practice for every yard you would like to shoot (100 rounds = 100 yards).

    I think a good Marlin 336 with a scope and some Hornaday Leverevolution ammo would work great for you. That would easily kill a deer out to 150 yards or more. Marlins make dandy deer rifles and are easy to clean, reliable, and very accurate.

    Keep us posted on your new rifle.

    Good luck, have fun, be safe and welcome to the hunting fields.

  4. zombienerd

    zombienerd Well-Known Member

    I may be biased, but the Marlin 336 is a sure-fire first gun choice :) It was my first rifle (Ahem, the "Western Auto 200"), has medium kick, can accept a scope, the open sights are very accurate. It is .30-30.

    I prefer the Lever action over a Bolt, but that's just my opinion :)

    A new one will run a little more than you're budgeted, but you can find really good condition ones for $250 or so online, so that would make about 300 after shipping, FFL transfer, etc...
  5. Shawnee

    Shawnee member

    For $300 it isn't likely you're going to get a rifle and good scope both, which means you'll be using iron sights - which means the 30/30 has all the power and range you will be able to use. As others have said - the lever-action 30/30s (either Marlin or Winchester) are actually superb deerslayers. There is really no need to feel handicapped with a 30/30. Think of all the archers and black powder hunters who kill deer every year.:)

    Option -

    What are the chances that you could borrow a rifle for this year's season ? Do you know anyone who might lend you a bolt-action .243 or 6mm or 257 Roberts or 250 Savage or maybe a .270 ? That would give you more range IF the rifle had a decent scope on it.

    Good Luck !

  6. Golden Hound

    Golden Hound Well-Known Member

    There's no real need for a scope right now - with your first rifle, you don't need it. Iron sights are better to learn on IMO. The way people talk nowadays, you'd think nobody ever shot a deer before the scope was invented.
  7. woof

    woof Well-Known Member

    You didn't say if you have ever hunted anything or even fired a gun before. If not to both, deer may not be the best place to start. If you are proficient with a .22 and have hunted small game, then you should still think in terms of limiting the shots you take on deer to 100 yards or less and the .30-30 is fine for that. There are way too many new hunters trying to use power and scopes to make up for the lack of skill and experience, don't be one of them.
  8. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Well-Known Member

    Another vote for a Marlin 336. Affordable and reliable, and should take any game in your neck of the woods.
  9. jerkface11

    jerkface11 Well-Known Member

    Check the local gunshops you can usually get a used bolt action with an OK scope for $300.
  10. chad1043

    chad1043 Well-Known Member

    ^^^ What they said... Plus 30-30 ammo is way cheaper than most...

  11. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    It really doesn't matter what rifle you end up with. The real important thing is practice practice practice. Reading a book such as Jeff Cooper's "The Art of the Rifle" wouldn't hurt either. TAotR is a short read and has a lot of good pictures in it.

    On scopes, I recommend shooting irons. At 100 yards you are in no way disadvantaged with iron sights instead of a scope. In either case, you are severely disadvantaged if you haven't practiced. Just like shooting/hunting, a violinist doesn't expect to play well at a concert unless he/she has practiced before hand.
  12. BornAgainBullseye

    BornAgainBullseye Well-Known Member

    scan you local gun shops. Im sure you could find some good used .270 or 30-06 for what you want to spend. And if it is on the used rack, then tell the shop owner what you have and if he can work with the price. Pawn Shops usually are best to bargain with as they usually only paid 1/3 of the price on the pricetag.
  13. Does this $300 have to cover optics also, or just rifle only? Cannot advise until I know that. Or, are you going to use iron sights?
  14. paintballdude902

    paintballdude902 Well-Known Member

    i just had my local shop order me an marlin xl7 looks good i cant wait its in .30-06 no iron sights so i gotta get a scope

    im getting this to use for longer range shots than my .30-30 wich i love its taken lots of deer and is a good gun
  15. goon

    goon Well-Known Member

    I love the Marlin 30-30 but in your case I'd probably check the used rack for a good Savage in .243.
  16. Sinixstar

    Sinixstar member

    I have to agree entirely. When I hunted - i honestly hated using scopes. If I was in a stand where i had a supported position, that's one thing - but you don't always have the time to properly prepare. When you're first starting out your nerves get pretty raw the first time you draw down on a deer - and the scope just magnifies all those subtle twitches and movements. You see the crosshairs bouncing a little bit - and it just destroys your confidence to take the shot. That leads you to be more nervous, and thus even less steady.

    I think it also depends a lot on where you're hunting, and what kind of techniques you're using. If you're in a stand all day where you have quick/easy access to sticks or whatnot, it's not so bad. If you do a lot of walking trying to stir something up - a scope is a bad idea.
  17. CZ223

    CZ223 Well-Known Member

    My best advice to you is

    to be patient. I know that is the last thing that you want to hear right now but it is good advice. Since you only have a week to get ready you are forced to buy what is available and you really don't have time to get proficient with anything at this point. Your best bet at this point is to borrow a gun from a family member or friend. If this is not an option and you simply must go hunting then I think the 33-30 is a decent choice at least for the short term.
    To answer your original question though, you are lucky in that there are several bargain rifles available that are in your price range. I am a big fan of Savage rifles and if by chance you should find a used one in your price range, buy it. As to new rifles your choices are:

    1) Stevens 200 This basically a no frills Savage and is available in some very good caliber choices for you including 270, 243, 25-06, a favorite and the 308. Price is going to be around $275. You would still need a scope. These are very accurate aand that is why they are number one on my list.

    2) Mossberg 100 ATR- This looks like a pretty good rifle for the money and I have seen them at Wal-mart. Available in all the standard caliber like 243,270 308 and of course 30-06. Right around $275 witout scope and $325 with a cheap scope.

    3) Marlin XL7- Availability is not great on these right now and your caliber choices are pretty limited. The price is right around $340 without a scope. I don't like to be the first guy on the block with the new toy. Not high on my list but that is just my opinion.

    4) New England Firearms Handi-Rifle or H&R single shot. You can get these in lots of different calibers and configurations. They have a good rep for accuracy. The best part is the price, new they start at just over $200. You can find these used in great shape for around $160 bucks. At those prices you can afford a decent scope like a nikon pro-staf or buckmaster.

    If you can be patient, look around for a good used rifle that you like or choose a new rifle that you want. If the $300 will cover either of those choices buy it. Then save up for a good scope or, drop a hint to your grand parents and others that you are saving toward the scope. Cash for Christmas saves them the hassle of shopping.
  18. redbullitt

    redbullitt Well-Known Member

    i say 30 30 lever too. Good all around gun. ammo will be cheaper to practice with. Honestly you dont need a scope. my dad has an old 303 british with peep sights that can keep them all in a dinner plate at 300 yards, with crappy ammo. Not remarkable, but considering the platform and trigger men i am be quite happy with it. Im just trying to show that you should be just fine with open sights. + best to learn on them also, then work into another gun if you like, when budget allows.
  19. saskboy

    saskboy Well-Known Member

    I would stay away from a 30-30, get something bigger like a 270 or 30-06 or even 308. Then at least a few years down the road you wont have to upgrade when you want to start long distance shooting. Also if you only have 300 bucks, spend it all on rifle only, a good scope costs way more than 300 bucks anyhow and a junk scope will only cause you grief. I started out with a 30-30 and hated it, got a winchester 88 308 for 400 bucks and it was a huge improvement. I know there will prob be 100 guys trashing me and saying how good the 30-30 is and how many deer they have killed but its a perfect bush gun only in my opinion. An old 303 is cheap and accurate for the money too.

    KINGMAX Well-Known Member

    REMINGTON 700 in .270

    Press your folks to go ahead and spend the $$$$$ on a Remington 700 ADL or BDL in .270, with a nice wood stock. :) You will be more satisfied with it other than a 30.30 lever action. JMOHO:D

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