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Perpetual search for perfect 1911

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Rival, Aug 15, 2004.


Which 1911 would you take?

  1. Les Baer TRS

    15 vote(s)
  2. Wilson CQB

    14 vote(s)
  3. Springfield Pro

    15 vote(s)
  4. Valtro 1998A1

    10 vote(s)
  1. Rival

    Rival Well-Known Member

    Down to four - which one would you recommend over the other ones?
    I really like all four of them about equal, is there anything I should know?
  2. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member

    A lot depends on what you want to use it for.

    I don't have as much experience with the Valtro as the other three, but all of them that I've seen in person are awful purtily blued and sport adjustable sights, neither of which is my first choice for a totin' gun.

    The TRS is also blued, and comes from the factory with a single-sided thumb safety and slim grips. Easily changed, but again, not my personal cup of blood 'n' brimstone on a carry piece.

    The CQB and Pro are much of a muchness in the finish department, but the CQB comes with front slide serrations and 30-lpi checkering and the single-sided safety, and I personally prefer the Pro's 20-lpi, ambis, and lack of forward serrations. From the examples I've seen, the Pros seem to be fitted up slightly better, too, but I'm working from relatively small sample sizes.

    You rarely meet an unsatisfied owner of any one of the four, however.
  3. tlhelmer

    tlhelmer Well-Known Member

    Neither, Kimber Custom II TLE-RL would be my choice. 100 % reliable.
  4. Rival

    Rival Well-Known Member

    Now that last post was funny... Kimber is not in the same league. Not by a long shot. I'd take my Springfield Loaded over any Kimber Custom II.
  5. denfoote

    denfoote Well-Known Member

    I don't have the Pro, but the Loaded.
    It's as close to the perfect 1911 as I ever need to get!!! :D
    IMHO, Kimbers are :barf: !!!!!
  6. Rival

    Rival Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's the problem. You can never get too close...
  7. shep854

    shep854 Well-Known Member

    You left one off; a plain-Jane, milspec, stock GI M1911A1. Everything else is gilding the lily.
  8. ddj8052

    ddj8052 Well-Known Member

    I nominate the Ed Brown Kobra Carry :cool:
  9. strambo

    strambo Well-Known Member

    Spring. Milspec (or other basic colt/kimber etc...) and send it to a top smith for some work...can end up with a custom gun for the same price (if your tastes aren't too extravegant) that will be better for you than all of the above. $450.00 for a milspec leaves you $1350+ for custom work and shipping until you get to the $1800+ price of the others. Downside is the long wait...

    Wish I had experience with those guns...but I'm saving my pennies up to take my own advice... [Yost 1* package with retro rear sight, serrated front strap and lower/flare ejection port and I'll have about $400 left over from the price of the Les Baer I used to want]
  10. Black_Talon

    Black_Talon Well-Known Member

    Never handled a Valtro but I've had multiple opportunities to handle the Baer, Wilson and SA Pro. For me, it was a reasonably easy decision to buy the SA Pro. As a matter of fact, I bought two.
  11. cratz2

    cratz2 Well-Known Member

    My experience with Baers has every so slightly scared me off from them... And the Valtro, while a beautiful gun, I just don't consider quite on par with the others.

    Once I'd put 500 trouble-free rounds through them, I'd be happy with either the Wilson or the Pro but if it was free, I'd take the Pro.
  12. dev_null

    dev_null Well-Known Member

    Perfect for what?

    I've heard good things about the Valtro, but frankly I could buy three perfectly good Springfields and a boatload of ammo for the price of one of them.

    As for me, my Kimber is perfect for my purposes.

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  13. Bill Z

    Bill Z Well-Known Member

    Ed Brown would be my choice.
  14. Vitamin G

    Vitamin G Well-Known Member

    My dream gun would be similar to my Kimber TLE. Honestly.

    My only changes would be straight 8 night sights, thin grips, and either the "wave" pattern of conamyds instead of the checkering on the frontstrap. I just can't get used to checkering :(
  15. Berg01

    Berg01 Well-Known Member

    No such thing as "best" or "perfect"; I have an SW1911 with the adjustable rear sight; for me, it fits its intended purpose as a nice shooting range / target gun very nicely, and I'm very happy with it. I can highly recommend one to anybody interested in a 1911.
  16. 45auto

    45auto Well-Known Member

    I haven't shot one, but you might as well throw Rock River in there as a viable alternative...not that you need any more. :) I don't think you can go wrong with any of your choices.

    I read great things about Rock River, good pricing for that category, and it appears you may have more flexability in options, for the same price, if you wish.

    Good luck
  17. Dave Sample

    Dave Sample member

    None of the Above.
  18. cratz2

    cratz2 Well-Known Member

    Ezackerly! :p

    Most of the folks that knock any of the four are folks that don't own any of the four. Or well known smiths that would rather have a Colt tweaked to their likeness.... Right, Dave?

    But if you have the cash, for an off the shelf piece, the Pro is pretty tough to beat in my book.
  19. mmike87

    mmike87 Well-Known Member

    I'd tend towards the TRS, then possibly the Wilson, because there is a chance you'd get to handle one of them in a shop somewhere. The Pro and the Valtro are much more rare, at least I have never seen them in any shop, anywhere.

    The biggest reason I picked my Baer Super-Tac was simply that I was able to find one an hour away that I could actually see before forking down my $1900.

    I doubt that any of the 4 would be disappointing, however.
  20. C96

    C96 Well-Known Member

    You oughta add Ted Yost to the poll. I'm saving my bucks to go there. :D


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