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Pew Research: In Gun Control Debate, Several Options Draw Majority Support

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ZombieFromDU, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. ZombieFromDU

    ZombieFromDU Member

  2. wacki

    wacki Well-Known Member

    This is important. Nate Silver views Pew as the most reliable poll in the Presidential races.
  3. wacki

    wacki Well-Known Member

    How the heck are the more people in favor of banning semi-autos than assault style weapons?

    DISCLAIMER: I realize they are one in the same. Just surprised as semi's should "sound" more benign.

    Last edited: Jan 14, 2013
  4. Wolfman131

    Wolfman131 member

    There is no difference between the two, same exact mechanism. I haunt other gun forums, one of the most appalling is m4carbine.net, where I'd say that at least 70% of the membership is more then eager to appear reasonable, and enact sweeping federal intrusions.

    Some of these "reasonable" members brazenly have all of their so-called "NRA-bonafides" listed in the sig lines, as though they are righteous defenders of the 2nd, which they are not. This is called "elitism!" We will lose all, if that mentality is not swiftly corrected.
  5. ZombieFromDU

    ZombieFromDU Member

    Is there an official definition for "assault style weapons?" Perhaps different people are thinking of different firearms when they hear/read this term.

    ~edit to remove double quote~
  6. AlexanderA

    AlexanderA Well-Known Member

    All this poll shows is the appalling ignorance of most people about guns. Given that ignorance, the poll results can be skewed (toward the results that the pollster wants) simply by the wording of the questions.

    The only "polls" that count right now are the feedback that the elected representatives are receiving from their constituents.
  7. abajaj11

    abajaj11 Well-Known Member

    Amen to that. Call your congressman and 2 senators at least once a week and simply say: " No compromise on 2A!"
    It's a numbers game at this point.
    3 calls a week. next 7 weeks.
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2013
  8. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    When ask, people have opinions about most anything, but they don't necessarily indicate what issues will be most important to them when (if) they vote.

    On the other hand gun owners have a lot of reasons to care about this issue, and will be out for blood come the 2014 election. I predict a replay of 1994 after the 1st. AWB was passed.

    I mean, 4 million, 300 thousand background checks on gunbuyers in 8 weeks???
  9. sonick808

    sonick808 Well-Known Member

    this is at odds with the gallup data I last saw, which was showing a deviation of about 15-20% towards the PRO side on each question. Particularly, a majority do NOT support AWB, magazine restrictions, as opposed to a majority that DID in 1992-1994.

    If these pew numbers are honest, they're heavily skewed by temporary emotion

    an overall look, HEAVY on emotion w/sandy hook.
  10. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    Ban online ammo sales, I believe we already court rulings that would make that null and void since that is how the CA ammo ban was put to rest.


    Federal database is gun registration which would be the first step toward confiscation.
  11. Silent Bob

    Silent Bob Well-Known Member

    Something tells me your average American does not know what a semi-automatic is, and just assume it means full-auto.
  12. Pointshoot

    Pointshoot Well-Known Member

    Polls are easily manipulated. What questions you ask. How they are asked. To whom you ask. etc, etc, etc. - - - -As for what some guy "Nate Silver?" says - who the heck is that ? And who cares. What relevance is there to this issue and poll.

    What really matters in all this isn't what the general uninformed public thinks, - but what citizens who are gunowners think. And what they are willing to do, or not do.
  13. tulsamal

    tulsamal Well-Known Member

    And I wonder where they get that from? I watched the ABC evening news last night. They mentioned the "possible AWB ban." First video they showed was a guy with an AR-15 firing fast single shots. Then the next shot was of a guy emptying a magazine from an obviously full auto AK. Yeah, I can walk into a gun store right now and buy one of those!!

  14. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    These questions are phrased in a way that exploits a lack of knowledge on the part of the general public about what regulations are already in place. When they are asked if people should have to have background checks at gun shows, they don't already know that the law is the same at a gun show as it is everywhere else. They have been led to believe that there is some kind of exception at a gun show, that this is where people congregate to get around the law.

    They don't already know that there are laws in place preventing the mentally ill from purchasing guns.

    They don't know the difference between semi and auto.

    They have no idea what an assault style weapon is or isn't.

    They have no idea what a high or standard capacity magazine is or how either one would be used.
  15. henschman

    henschman Well-Known Member

    Even if we are in a minority on some issues, I think the pro-gun folks tend to care about this issue a lot more than the antis, and are more active in promoting their views. On these issues, we just need to keep doing the whole "irate and tireless minority" thing. Even a minority can get a politician kicked out of office if they raise enough hell. We need to make it dangerous for a politician to vote anti gun.
  16. Wolfman131

    Wolfman131 member

    I'm sorry, but I do not expect that to occur, I fully expect that the wrong people will once again be handed a super majority, with Pelosi becoming SOH a second time. This is almost a certainty. No matter what happens the next few days, Obama gets his super majority back in 14.
  17. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    The irony of this can not be avoided -

    How can Pew use such mangled terms as "ammunition clip" for magazine and "assault-style weapons".

    I'm concerned that the terms were intentionally negative. A rifle is a firearm, not a weapon by definition. Why use "semi-automatic weapon" instead of firearm or rifle unless you wanted a negative association with the word weapon?
  18. col_temp

    col_temp Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Well put. As someone else mentioned I would guess this poll was a bit skewed by the questions, the terms, and probably the sampling. Based on the general tenor here and in many other sites I would bet things are much more closer to 50% both ways, as is the rest of the country on just about any other subject!
  19. RX-178

    RX-178 Well-Known Member

    It is of note that all of the percentages on the Pew Reseach polls are still some of the LOWEST they have ever recorded.

    According to Pew Research, more Americans supported an Assault Weapons ban 2010 than they do now. And even more Americans supported one in 2008.

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