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Pistol or SBR

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by longshot7.62x51, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. longshot7.62x51

    longshot7.62x51 Well-Known Member

    would adding a grip in front of the magizne make this an SBR or would it remain a pistol

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  2. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    It would make it an SBR.
  3. longshot7.62x51

    longshot7.62x51 Well-Known Member

  4. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Perhaps some clarification is in order.

    I always thought that adding a forward vertical grip to a pistol with no provision for a shoulder stock made it an AOW "Any Other Weapon"

    Although registering it as an SBR would give you the most versatility.
  5. longshot7.62x51

    longshot7.62x51 Well-Known Member

    well as soon as i have to reg it there is no reason to not do it as a sbr. would make the thing easyer to shoot by a long hot too
  6. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

  7. onfloat

    onfloat Active Member

  8. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    You are correct, but its $200 either way, so the only reason to go AOW would be a quirk of state law.
  9. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    Looks like the PTR hits 6 of the 6 to be an "assault pistol" if the forearm counts as a "shroud".

    Its almost enough to make me want one.
  10. onfloat

    onfloat Active Member

  11. longshot7.62x51

    longshot7.62x51 Well-Known Member

    Im only stuck here in this nightmare for another year then im off to a better state like TX or CO
  12. Ron James

    Ron James Well-Known Member

    I've had many friends that were stationed in Schofield Barracks, they sure didn't call it a nightmare. In fact they always did everything in their power to get back to Hawaii.
  13. longshot7.62x51

    longshot7.62x51 Well-Known Member

    I am just not well suited for this state. its too wet and islandy and the whole registering all your guns thing (Not cool Bra)
  14. onfloat

    onfloat Active Member

    Yep, I'm trying to figure out how to get back to the mainland myself. 6 years has been long enough!
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2011
  15. Quiet

    Quiet Well-Known Member


    You are correct.
    Adding a vertical forward grip to a handgun would make it an AOW, not a SBR.

    In order to be a SBR, you would need to add a shoulder stock to it.
  16. InkEd

    InkEd Well-Known Member

    C'mon guys!

    You mean you don't LOVE registering ALL your guns (neutered) guns and asking directions to get somewhere that has nine vowels and two apostrophes in the name?

    What next? Are you going to pretend that SPAM isnt delicious and worth serving with every meal?
  17. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Yes, Quiet got this answer correct. A Title I pistol -- as the above image appears to be -- has to be registered as an AOW for you to install a forward vertical grip.


    You could register it as an SBR, though, and for the same money, and then install a vertical fore grip and/or a full butt-stock if you wanted one. The SBR registration makes by far the most sense. You don't have to install a buttstock, but you can if you want. And anything registered as a kind of rifle can have any vertical grip you want installed.
  18. boricua9mm

    boricua9mm Well-Known Member

    I might be mistaken, but I thought the Tax Stamp for an AOW was only $5, not $200. I agreee though, a rifle-caliber pistol is of very limited use. Paying the $200 to turn it into an SBR would be the best way to go.
  19. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    The tax stamp to MAKE an AOW on a Form 1, which is what you'd be doing here, is still $200, just like for a Form 1 to make an SBR.

    The tax stamp for a Form 4 Transfer of one to a new owner is $5, unlike a Form 4 transfer for any other Title II item which is $200.
  20. baylorattorney

    baylorattorney Well-Known Member

    When will we finally be a democracy or free republic and reform these stupid laws that? It is very simple: laws only effect law-abiding citizens. NTM, some (laws) are just plain stupid.

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