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pre 84 ar lower

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by oron, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. oron

    oron Active Member

    ? is a class 2 still allowed.

    Just a thought.
  2. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Well-Known Member

    Not a lot of information in your post to go on...

    But Class 2 refers to a class of SOT that allows an FFL to make Title II firearms. Class 2 manufacturers can make silencers, SBRs and SBSs for sale to civilians. They can make machine guns for sales to law enforcement and the military.

    You're asking about a "pre-84" lower, which doesn't make much sense either, but I can deduce that you're really asking about an AR15 lower made before 1986, when the registry for new machine guns closed.

    The fact that the lower itself was manufactured before 1986 doesn't mean it was a machine gun before then. If the lower was not made into a machine gun and entered into the registry before 1986, then it cannot be made into a machine gun now.

    There's no shortcut with Title II firearms.

  3. oron

    oron Active Member

    pre 84 lower

    More info.
    OLY. sgw. gawer stooten gun werks.
    Told in 83-84 fire distoryed records.
    From factory Reps.
    Ser # Fxxxx
    Can't thru busey signle. Latly.
    Pardon spelling.

    Co. School of gunsmithing, Class 07-18-02
  4. oron

    oron Active Member

    pre 84 lower

    More info.
    OLY. sgw. gawer stooten gun werks.
    Told in 83-84 fire distoryed records.
    From factory Reps.
    Ser # Fxxxx
    Can't get thru busey signle. Latly.
    Pardon spelling.

    Co. School of gunsmithing, Class 07-18-02
    Thank you Aaron.
  5. tepin

    tepin Well-Known Member

    If the lower wasn't registered under the NFA as a machine gun prior to the 1986 ban, it cannot be registered now as a machine gun.
  6. oron

    oron Active Member

    Pre 84 lower

    Thank you all.
    And lets us keep our Sanity:cool::cool:
  7. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    My wildest guess is that you are saying that you have, or are being offered a registered machinegun receiver with no paperwork. If so, you will have to verify that the serial number is listed in the registry. If it is, you will need to show the ATF the transfer trail from whomever it was registered, to whomever is in possession of it now. That doesn't appear to be an easy thing to do without incriminating a few individuals of a federal crime. If this receiver is for sale, the seller will have to do all of the above in order for the transfer to begin legally.
  8. fatcat4620

    fatcat4620 Well-Known Member

    An I the only one who thinks this is a set up question?
  9. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Well-Known Member

    Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
  10. MasterSergeantA

    MasterSergeantA Well-Known Member

    Well said, AB. Had forgotten that one.

    Happy New Year, all.
  11. J.R.W.

    J.R.W. Well-Known Member

    If it's too good to be true, it ain't.
  12. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Well-Known Member

    One should absolutely never be afraid to ask questions, especially about Title II firearms, since the penalties can be so severe.

    I think the problem with the OP is that he didn't really make an attempt to type in whole, coherent sentences, leaving us to guess what he was trying to ask.

  13. oron

    oron Active Member

    Pre. 1986 AR-15 Rec.

    Dear Sirs.
    It was not my intent, to cause ?'s.
    Of the Oly. Rec. I had.
    Just confused, of Law.
    The most important answer, was NO. !!!
    By A.T.F. Regs. 10 Yrs. $ 250.000. Prison.
    And the option of becomming a proctological test dummy.
    Is not my ideal of a fun life
    Thank you all.
    For your help.
  14. AlexanderA

    AlexanderA Well-Known Member

    This sounds like something that could have been said by Yoda, the Jedi Master. Or an attempt at Haiku poetry. Or a Zen koan. Whatever it is, it's brilliant (in its own way). I love it!
  15. Swing

    Swing Well-Known Member

  16. ApacheCoTodd

    ApacheCoTodd Well-Known Member

    Just an AR clone is it for you now though some value it may have to those weirdos on the look out always for A-1 or pre-A lowers for reenactment - if in fact it is configured as such.

    I finally gave one of mine up to one of those characters after years of bugging me for it in order to play dress-up.

    Now one of those weirdos am I since just finished have I, a BFI A-1 as an "as carried" CAR from my own "back in the day" days.

    Sorry, couldn't help the Yodafications there.;)
  17. oron

    oron Active Member

    Ar-rec ?

    Thank you all.
    Spent time, in the land of rising sun.

    One day, i will learn .Spelling, and " Hear it comes."

    Ponktiounation: How's that.??

    Love "A" young. Vet. Only -50- and learning.

  18. Flyincedar

    Flyincedar Well-Known Member

    Don't throw the Vet term out there to justify not understanding. Makes me puke in my mouth a bit every time someone does that....A lot of us are vets. And at age 50, you are likely a vet of the exact same engagements as most of us
  19. jmorris

    jmorris Well-Known Member

    In what way? Better yet, what question?

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