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Problems at a Gun Show...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Nugilum, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. Nugilum

    Nugilum Well-Known Member

    I was at the Atlanta gun show last weekend, and we were told by the Sheriff's department before we entered that we were FORBIDDEN to sell or purchase firearms outside of the convention center. "All transactions are to be held inside the building only!"

    WTH! :what: :fire: :mad::what::fire: :mad:

    I made the mistake of calling him on it. I tried to be diplomatic and asked him some questions (ex: What's the difference with buying a gun out here and buying from an ad in the newspaper?) but got that classic "look" from him, and he walked off. I then had an officer follow me the whole time I was in the building. :cuss: He wouldn't even talk to me. I didn't purchase anything that required my ID. I even took a round-about path back to my car.

    Regardless, I had a successful venture. I was able to get all the missing accessories for my AR and M1 projects (AR15-A2 stock, slings, bayonets, stock cleaning kits, etc.) :D

    So was my treatment out of the norm for everyone else, or did my "People Skills" cause this situation?
  2. csmkersh

    csmkersh Well-Known Member

    Did you get any badge numbers? If so, file a complaint with the State AG's office.
  3. Nugilum

    Nugilum Well-Known Member

    Wasn't smart enough for that... :eek:
  4. RancidSumo

    RancidSumo Well-Known Member

    I'd have told him to leave me the **** alone and go stop some actual crimes.
  5. chucrusty

    chucrusty Member

    personaly i would have asked him to help carry some of my purchases, since he was tagging along anyway!
  6. mlw332

    mlw332 Well-Known Member

    personaly i would have asked him to help carry some of my purchases, since he was tagging along anyway!

    i agree he coulda at least been helpful in some way
  7. TAB

    TAB Well-Known Member

    I would have been asking every single ammo vender if they had any of the "black cop killer ammo"
  8. Dismantler

    Dismantler Well-Known Member

    There are signs at the NH gun shows that I attend forbidding parking lot sales. I never really gave them any thought. Guess it's because I did not have anything to sell...

    My common time at a show is two hours, so that deputy would have had a long morning with me. :)
  9. tntwatt

    tntwatt Well-Known Member

    Sounds like he's show boating for re-election and the anti votes. He refused to answer your question because he knew he was outside of the law. Should have a video camera available (cell phone) to record the incident. Also should have recorded telling the cop following you that he was making you nervous by following you and that you considered it harrassment. Then file a complaint. (that's all assuming you have tons of money for needless lawyer fees needed to protect your rights.)
  10. sort00

    sort00 Active Member

    Heck I usually spend at 4hrs to 5hrs so I don't miss anything, and at One of the last 1's there was more action/trading done in the parking lot than inside:cool:
  11. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Well-Known Member

    People skills? We don' need no steenkin' people skills.

    So a guy goes to a pharmacy and says "Gimme a bunch of uppers."

    And the pharmacist says back to him "Lemme see your prescription."

    Then the guy says "What's the difference with buying pills in here and buying on the street?"

    So the pharmacist calls the cops and the guy says to them "Virtuous people challenge authority. So prove to me that you're really cops, show me proof of your training, prove that you own the gun on your hip, where is the registration for that car you drove, what size uniforms do you wear, and where is your evidence that the laws you say you are enforcing were ever passed? Give me the name of each legislator who voted for them, his or her age, and evidence that he/she was duly elected. Just sayin'."

    No offense intended. :)
  12. ants

    ants Well-Known Member

    Maybe it can help to take a fresh look.

    Our convention center has extensive contracts with a show organizer. It guarantees that the convention center will have no competing show of the same type on that same day (i.e, there won't be two gun shows at the same time). On that day it gives exclusive right to the show organizer to use the property for the intended purpose, exclusive of all other venders, swap meets, and private parties. This includes the entire property, not just the interior of the building. Since our local convention center is owned by the County, the county sheriff handles security and enforces the contract rather than a private security company.

    It is quite possible that your deputy was just doing his job enforcing the convention center's contract. Maybe it had nothing to do with state or federal law. Also, maybe we should give some slack to the deputy who followed you. None of this was his fault, and he cannot refuse to do his job or he gets fired.
  13. Kitchen_Duty

    Kitchen_Duty Well-Known Member

    Without quoting any reference, "that don't sound right". I don't think they can totally stop you making a transaction unless the transaction is on private property. So... gun trades on the street?

    Yeah I would have asked for a quote of the law they were enforcing and then ask what their name/badge number was. I like the police when they are doing their job but not when they are not.

    Last edited: Apr 28, 2008
  14. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Well-Known Member

    Was that the Norcross show? Could have driven across the street and made the sale. I like the carrying of the stuff though..."Protect and Serve"...did you feel safe? At least you had a loaded weapon handy in case it was needed.
  15. Atla

    Atla Well-Known Member


    That's it? Man - I'd spend most of the day there. It takes a while to look and handle most of the guns, go through the books, etc.

    Than you have to check out the girlfriends the other guys brought to see if you can snag one.
  16. mgregg85

    mgregg85 Well-Known Member

    Nice job man, way to tell him like it is.

    Don't ever be afraid to tell any public official how it really is if you know you are in the right. It must be done and the guy deserved it.

    Next time call the NRA right in front of him and make a complaint. Ask them for the state AG's number and try calling him if available.

    Never be afraid to do whats right. Never be afraid to exercise your rights.
  17. axeman_g

    axeman_g Well-Known Member

    Norcross... The Civic Center there frowns on deals outside of dealer tables. I sold a pistol there last year down the street, I had it with me but consumated the deal elsewhere.

    It sort of the house rules. Still it is usually a good show.

    Was Rifleman from Macon there? He is a good guy, a blind gun dealer that know his stuff and does good business. How about Pete from Hit&Run... he has the table with some Bren Guns on it, usually up front near doors.

    I miss those good shows...
  18. markk

    markk Well-Known Member

    Maybe there were Anti's outside trying to document the terrible "gun-show loophole" and the Sheriff was just trying to prevent Billy Joe and Bubba from being on the 5 o'clock news for selling dangerous assault weapons of mass destruction out in the parking lot...
  19. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    ""All transactions are to be held inside the building only!" "

    They rented the building and the parking lot, so their rules. No big deal. If the city made the rule, well, it's their property to manage as they see fit. I don't see what the problem is.

  20. ravencon

    ravencon Well-Known Member

    It is NOT the job of LE to enforce private contracts. Using the color of authority to do so is an abuse of power and they should be sanctioned for doing so.

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