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Proper Cleaning

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Picknlittle, May 4, 2007.

  1. Picknlittle

    Picknlittle Well-Known Member

    Okay. You've been to the range for a couple hours or you come in from a weekend hunt. To what extent to you clean your rifle.

    Is there such a thing a normal after use and a more intricate deep cleaning at a given period?

    I typically use copper solvent and brush, then swab out with dry patches. Then run a lubed patch thru the barrel and wipe out the reciever and wipe down the bolt. Is this enough or is there something important I'm overlooking?
  2. never_retreat

    never_retreat Well-Known Member

    Clean them when they stop working or when your hand gets dirty picking it up:D
  3. hexidismal

    hexidismal Well-Known Member

    Although I am a total nut in some ways when it comes to cleaning, I don't think you need many products to do it properly. I always clean my guns thoroughly after any firing (and even occasionaly when they haven't fired, which is what might be a bit of overkill). All I use though is your basic good old Hoppe's #9 and a good lubricant/protectant. I highly recommend fp-10 for that.
  4. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    more gns have been damaged by over cleaning then under cleaning. Heck, my marlin 22 does better when it hasn't been cleaned, takes at least 200 rounds for it to shoot really good agian lol. The cinterfires get a wet patch or two down them until they come out respectably clean. The only time a brush goes down my guns is if I know there is some really tough crud down there or fouling.
  5. Elza

    Elza Well-Known Member


    +1 You just descried me as well.
  6. obxned

    obxned Well-Known Member

    I clean the barrel (no wire brush) and action, then lightly oil to prevent rust. Disassembly and detail cleaning is about a once a year affair on rifles.
  7. thebaldguy

    thebaldguy Well-Known Member

    I think it's a good idea to clean and lube firearms after each use. I think most cleaning damage is in the barrel; it comes from serious overuse of cleaning rods and wire brushes. I use a patch with solvent, then a wet brush for a few strokes, and finally dry patches. A clean patch with a few drops of oil for protection when done.
  8. esmith

    esmith Well-Known Member

    I hear its bad for the gun if you run your brush down the muzzle end of the rifle. Is this true? If it is, why?

    All i do is run the brush through once and use my bore mop a couple of times with some patches until its fairly clean. After cleaning the bolt and breach i oil everything down a bit then do the action a few times to spread it evenly.
  9. CliffH

    CliffH Well-Known Member

    The way I understand it is: When cleaning from the muzzle end it is too easy to allow the rod to rub against the end of the muzzle, thereby damaging the crown. Messing up the crown messes up the grouping.

    I'll run a copper brush with Hoppe's on it followed by a couple Hoppe's coated patches, then clean/dry patches until they come out clean. Follow that with a lightly oiled patch, clean the bolt face, then lightly oil the bolt & all exterior metal. I do that at the end of each day's shooting.
  10. Elza

    Elza Well-Known Member

    That is what I've always been told. I've seen military rifles with an adapter that attached to the muzzle to keep the rod away from the barrel. Is this a carry-over from the days of steel cleaning rods? I wouldn't think that aluminum or brass rods would damage a steel barrel.
  11. Picknlittle

    Picknlittle Well-Known Member

    This has been very helpful. I was afraid I was under cleaning. It seems I might do well to hold back the brush a bit more.

    Thanks all,
  12. esmith

    esmith Well-Known Member

    Well i probably ran the rod through the muzzle at least 10 times on my .22. Which to me, doesn't sound good. Is my gun damaged?
  13. Liberty1776

    Liberty1776 Well-Known Member

    I am new to your society...your words frighten and confuse me...what is this "kleeynyng" ritual of which you speak??? :evil:
  14. RNB65

    RNB65 Well-Known Member

    Here's the lowdown on gun cleaning --

    If you watch a hundred different people clean guns you're going to see a hundred different methods on how to do it. Some are going to be meticulous and spend an hour per gun and some are going to be done in 10 minutes. Some are going to scrub the barrel until in it is shiny clean and patches come out looking brand new and some are going to just push thru a patch or two soaked with solvent and be done with it (and some aren't going to clean the barrel at all because noncorrosive ammo doesn't do any harm to the barrel). Some are going to use B-F CLP for everything and some are going to use a whole handful of products (and they're all going to be different -- Outers, Shooter's Choice, Hoppes, Remington, Kleen Bore, Birchwood Casey, Break Free, Gun Slick, G96, WD40, etc., etc.,).

    In the end, as long as the action is reasonably cleaned and lubed, all the guns are going to work well regardless of how much time and effort went into cleaning them. As long as the bolt will move, the slide will slide, and the cylinder will rotate, the gun doesn't care how clean the rest of it is.
  15. Molon Labe

    Molon Labe Well-Known Member

    Here are some things I've learned over the years on the subject of cleaning the bore:

    1. Use brushes with brass (not steel) cores.
    2. A dirty bore has copper and carbon in it. You should attack them separately.
    3. It is more difficult to remove carbon than copper. This is because carbon cannot be dissolved.
    4. Most "carbon solvents" do not do a good job of removing carbon from the bore.
    5. The best carbon remover is a product called Carbon Killer. It is a surfactant.
    6. When using Carbon Killer, let it soak in the barrel for ten minutes, scrub bore with a bronze brush, wipe bore with patches, and then repeat.
    7. The best copper removers contain ammonia.
  16. Molon Labe

    Molon Labe Well-Known Member

    A bronze-bristled brush will not hurt your barrel. As for the cleaning rod, you should only use a one-piece coated (or graphite) rod.
  17. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    It's not "overcleaning."

    It's "incompetent cleaning."

    DO NOT use those aluminum rods that they sell at wal-mart. They'll eat a bore faster than you can say "What was Bogie blathering about this time?"

    Do not use stainless brushes if you care about a barrel.

    Use a bore guide.
  18. Ready2Defend

    Ready2Defend Well-Known Member

    I use gun scrubber spray on the action, then brush and patches through the barrel. I recently got a good light to look down the barrels with. Looks the same before/after brushing so with the above comments I am going to brush less.

    Any comments on the gun scrubber spray?
  19. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Well-Known Member

    Take a look at the ingrediant label on many sand papers and grinding wheels. You will find "aluminum oxide" listed. Then take a look at what happens to the surface of any untreated/coated piece of aluminum. You will find that the surface of a piece of aluminum will oxidize almost instantly. Therefore... :eek:

  20. Rustynuts

    Rustynuts Well-Known Member

    No one uses a boresnake? Self centering and no need for a road to scratch the bore. Has built-in brass "brushes"

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