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question about 9mm luger ammo

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by pastorscott@optonline.net, Nov 4, 2007.

  1. Im new to 9mm ammo since I just got my first 9mm auto,
    I want to buy ammo and see it on sale listed as luger ammo. does that mean its just for lugers ?Also where can I get 9mm cheap in bulk ?

  2. average_shooter

    average_shooter Well-Known Member

    IIRC; 9mm Luger = 9X19mm = 9mmNATO

    Most common 9mm are 9X19mm, but be careful because there are also things like 9X18mm, .380ACP, 9mm Mak, etc that are all similar but different and are not interchangeable.
  3. col_tapiocca

    col_tapiocca Well-Known Member

    Same european ammo may labeled with
    9mm Para or 9mm Parabellum too.
  4. jonnyc

    jonnyc Well-Known Member

    Yes, to consolidate; 9mmP, Para., Parabellum, Luger, NATO, 9x19, and 9x19mm are all the same round.
  5. So those 9mm lugers for sale at Cabelas will work in my 9mm auto

  6. jaydubya

    jaydubya Well-Known Member

    Keep your eye on Outdoor Marksman. Right now they do not have 500/1000 "Factory reloaded" 9mm 115gr ball, but when they do it will be thrifty. Also check www.mastercast.com. I haven't bought any 9mm from them, but I am well through 4,000 of their .38sp reloads. They are reliable, very prompt, and inexpensive -- especially if you send them your brass. If you do, send it Postal Service Priority Mail. This costs me eight bucks and change to ship a thousand cases. Any other way I know it costs twenty or more dollars.

    Cordially, Jack
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2007
  7. Great forum

    Thanks guys

    Im new to this forum and ready have found it GREAT

  8. CAnnoneer

    CAnnoneer Well-Known Member

    I like 9mm too. Without reloading, the cheapest I know of is 115gr FMJ Blazer at Nachess shooting supplies.
  9. Deacon Blues

    Deacon Blues Well-Known Member

    In case you can't remember all the distinctions, this is the easiest way to be sure you're getting the right "9mm" cartridge: price. If you see several 9xSomething loads, yours should be the cheapest. That's one of the great thngs about 9x19.
  10. strat81

    strat81 Well-Known Member

    Some 9mm designations you CAN NOT use:
    9x18 (9mm Makarov), 9x17 (.380 Auto), 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9mm Browning, 9x21, 9x23, 9mm Largo.

    As for cheapest, that's usually CCI Blazer 115gr FMJ. Other cheap brands include Wolf, Blazer Brass, Sellier & Bellot (S&B), Fiocchi, Monarch, Federal American Eagle, Speer Lawman, Prvi Partizan, Independence, Winchester USA Brand (aka white box or WWB). Some places to check:
    Wal-mart (brick & mortar)

    Be careful! Some places include shipping in their prices, others do not. Usually you will get a quantity discount if you order a case of 1000 rounds. The only brand of ammo I would avoid is American Ammunition (aka A-Merc). I'd also keep away from military surplus (mil-surp) ammo since it may be corrosive or loaded hot for submachine guns.

    For cheap stuff, I prefer either WWB or S&B. They are reliable, equally dirty (but not as dirty as Blazer or Wolf), and the brass is reloadable. Save your brass! You might decide to reload someday and the brass is nice to have. Or, you can sell it to reloaders.

    I notice you are in NY... I'm not sure where in NY, but I *think* some places (NYC) prohibit mail order ammo sales. The seller should be able to fill you in on this.
  11. Gingerbreadman

    Gingerbreadman Well-Known Member

    I saw it posted already, but I want to make absolutely sure:
    are 9x19 is completely interchangeable with 9mm parabellum, etc., not like .223/5.56 or 7.62x51/308 winchester?
  12. Wolf Ammo

    I found it real cheap for 9mm 1000 rounds. Is it ok for target shooting ?

  13. RP86

    RP86 Well-Known Member

    If you are looking to buy this check out www.ammoman.com for great prices, you can't beat the free shipping.(it's listed as 9mm Luger on the website) Not sure about the Walmart's where you are, but down here they carry 9mm at reasonable prices. I haven't had any personal experience with wolf 9mm, but it more than likely shoots dirty. Nothing wrong with that if you don't mind doing a little extra cleaning. I was thinking about ordering some just to test it out and see, because either people use it or absolutely refuse to do so.
  14. glockman19

    glockman19 Well-Known Member

    right now you can get CCI Blaser Brass 9mm for 9.99 a box of 50. Even less than the reloads @ an indoor range I go/went to.
  15. strat81

    strat81 Well-Known Member

    Yes. If you are shooting a relatively modern gun, SAAMI spec ammo is fine and those designations are interchangeable. I'd just be careful with old guns, or ammo marked +P, +P+, or submachinegun ammo.

    Wolf is not the most accurate ammo out there, but it should be fine for plinking. It is probably the dirtiest ammo out there, so be sure to clean your gun well after your range session (which is good practice anyway). Wolf is generally steel-cased and is not reloadable. Some folks also have problems with Wolf in some guns. I'd do a search and see if your gun is one of those.
  16. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    Wolf is imported russian ammo. My rule is, use russian ammo in russian guns. (Makarovs, SKSs, AKs chambered for .7.62 NATO, 5.56 NATO, etc.) It's steel cased, and some say it's tougher on your chambers and magazines. I'll shoot Wolf 7.62x39 through my SKS all day long. Russian military arms are built to looser, tougher specs.

    Wolf makes .30 Carbine, and it may work fine, but I'm not going to risk dinging up the chamber of my family heirloom Inland to find out.
  17. Silvanus

    Silvanus Well-Known Member

    Read this: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu6.htm

    I think that a lot of people just assume that Wolf ammo is not as accurate as other inexpensive ammo. Maybe it's because it's Russian, or because it's cheap, or steel-cased. I don't know. But my experience has been the same as the guys' on the link I posted. Out of a friend's new Beretta 90-two (or whatever you spell that) the Wolf .40S&W was very accurate.
  18. jaydubya

    jaydubya Well-Known Member

    Don't know which 9mm pistol you have, but if it is a Hi Power I would avoid steel case Wolf. It has a reputation of beating up the extractor.
    Cordially, Jack
  19. Black Adder LXX

    Black Adder LXX Well-Known Member

    $$$ for ammo is an issue with me. I get my 9mm from Wal-Mart. The Winchester White Box. Only get the 100 round box, though. The 50 round boxes aren't as good of a deal. I've gone through a couple thousand rounds and have never had any problems.
  20. madmattmd

    madmattmd Well-Known Member

    My local Dick's Sporting Goods had a sale last week on 9mm. Case price (10 boxes of 50) for Remington UMC came to $6.98 per 50 (.14 per round) plus sales tax. I usually try to stop by and stock up when they have a sale.

    I just wish they carried 10mm!


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