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Discussion in 'Activism' started by W.E.G., Aug 18, 2007.

  1. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    As you may be aware, Virginia Citizens Defense League sends out an RKBA email to members about once a week - sometimes more often while the Virginia legislature is in session.

    Is it OK to cut-and-paste that memo here?
    Is somebody already doing it?

    This is an example of what I'm talking about:
    (sometimes runs over the character-limit threshold, and has to be completed in successive posts to the thread.)

    VCDL UPDATE 08/13/07 - Defending your right to defend yourself

    Thought for the week:

    Thomas Jefferson quoting Beccaria:

    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are
    neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make
    things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they
    serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man
    may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

    1. Lest anyone doubt Bloomberg's aims ...
    2. Home invasions on the rise
    3. Chantilly Woman Shot, Killed in her Home
    4. We can never predict who or when
    5. Editorial in response to the incident in Item #4 above
    6. Why do you need all those bullets anyway?
    7. Senate panel sends Brady expansion bill to the floor
    8. Senator Schumer's take on the bill
    9. Chicago gun buy-back nets $1,700 for shooting program
    10. Who needs a gun at Wachovia?
    11. Radford CHP Fingerprinting
    12. Another reason not to fingerprint...
    13. Idaho sheriff says more concealed permits on campus would make
    schools safer!
    14. GMU issues new gun ban!
    15. LTE in Alexandria Times
    16. LTE in Richmond Times-Dispatch on arming college staff and students
    17. Chesterfield to address firearms on public highways
    18. Guns Don't Kill People, Gun Control Does
    19. Gun Talk on the radio
    20. Suffolk City Parks: "Right now we have no means to protect
    ourselves or our visitors"
    21. 3 killed execution style behind school
    22. Able2Know.com Debates College Carry!
    23. Good web site for campus gun ban info
    24. Essay: Why the gun in civilization?
    25. 2nd Amendment T-Shirts
    26. Goochland Board of Supervisor members who voted against the
    sporting clay range
    27. Gun shows and events! VCDL PICNIC IN SEPTEMBER!

    1. Lest anyone doubt Bloomberg's aims ...

    We warned everyone that it would be the kiss of death for any gun
    dealer to sign that deal with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
    The Draconian terms would make it hard to survive financially.

    When I first learned that Cole's was one of the gun stores Mayor
    Bloomberg was suing, I called Mark Cole to offer our help. He
    referred me to his attorney (his brother). I was told that they
    weren't interested, that it was a business decision, and that they
    were going to settle. I couldn't convince him otherwise. He turned
    down our help.

    Sadly, Mark Cole didn't listen.

    Member Michael Stembridge sent me this note:


    Just wanted to let you know Cole's Gun Shop in South Boston has
    closed. I have been going past there for the last 4 weeks & have seen
    no sign of any activity. I was in Hardee's down the street from there
    today & everyone said they were closed. I was also told that their
    inventory is being sold on gunbroker.com.

    It's really too bad this had to happen. I hate to see a gun store
    close for any reason. But I guess this is what happens when you dance
    with the devil.


    VCDL VP, Jim Snyder, was told by a seller on GunBroker.com that he
    was selling inventory from a gun store that had closed -- Cole's.
    Board member Jim Kadison had called Cole's store a few weeks ago
    based on rumors that Cole's was closing and was told that the
    Internet sales would be happening to liquidate remaining inventory.

    2. Home invasions on the rise

    Carry a gun when you are home? You bet. At a minimum make sure that
    a gun is always within reach.

    While I commend one of the victims for now locking her doors and
    sleeping with a knife under her bed, a knife still requires both
    physical strength and being within reach of your assailant.

    Certainly a knife would not be my first choice for a defensive tool.


    Home invasions increasing

    Thursday, Aug 09, 2007


    Jessica Videtto had planned on a relaxing Saturday night with friends
    to celebrate the 21st birthday of her husband, Henry. Inside their
    Hopewell apartment, music was playing, drinks were flowing and the
    group of six was in a celebratory mood.

    In an instant, everything changed.

    Four men rushed into the apartment and began physically assaulting
    everyone -- punching and kicking them and the apartment walls, which
    still bear the scars of the attack. So, too, does Henry Videtto: His
    right ear was sliced by an assailant who attacked him with a knife.
    Three other victims were beaten unconscious. One was thrown against a
    glass window and then stuffed into a trash can.

    "Nobody knew what was going on. . . . It was pretty crazy," Jessica
    Videtto said of the July 21 incident.

    While officials say home invasions are a growing problem, tracking
    them is difficult because the crime is not specifically defined by
    state law. The number of home-invasion-style crimes fluctuates but
    has increased slightly in recent years, a trend that Richmond police
    Lt. Thomas Nolan called "concerning but not alarming. We take any
    violent crime very seriously," Nolan said. "And there is a potential
    for violence when you have people invading a person's home."

    Home invasions can result in charges ranging from robbery and
    breaking and entering to assault, malicious wounding or abduction.
    Because Videtto said she recognized an assailant, suspects were
    arrested on charges of assault and breaking and entering. One also
    was charged with malicious wounding.

    The roots of the home-invasion phenomenon in the Richmond area date
    to the late 1980s when Asian families were victims of a series of
    residential breaks-ins and robberies committed by other Asians, some
    who traveled here from Northern Virginia.

    Another flare-up occurred four years ago when Henrico County police
    investigated a dozen home-invasion robberies in 33 days that mostly
    targeted Hispanic residents at apartment complexes. A handful of
    suspects were arrested and convicted in those crimes.

    "You go back three or four years, and we didn't have any," Prince
    George County police Lt. Brian Kei said of home invasions. "But in
    the last few years, they have become more prevalent." This year,
    Kei has begun tracking home invasions in the county. Officials have
    documented a rise in home-invasion-style crimes in suburban and rural
    localities in the region. Amelia County has recorded only two home
    invasions in the past decade, but one resulted in a homicide.

    "No more leaving your keys in your car or your back door unlocked,"
    Amelia sheriff's office Lt. Bruce Almarode said.

    Law-enforcement officials in Hanover, Powhatan, King William and
    Dinwiddie counties say they each have documented a handful of
    home-invasion robberies during the past five years. Caroline County
    has had just one home invasion in recent years. "It's bad enough to
    have your home broken into even when you're not there," said Capt. C.
    Scott Moser of the Caroline sheriff's office. "Your home is your
    castle, and if you experience this, you'll probably never fully feel
    safe there again."

    The numbers are more pronounced in the region's bigger population
    centers -- Chesterfield and Henrico counties and the city of Richmond
    -- which, according to a review of robbery records, last year
    recorded 26, 28 and 43 respectively. Henrico and Chesterfield
    provided home-invasion figures, while Richmond's number reflects
    residential robberies.

    Data show that annual residential robberies in the state are on the
    rise. Those charges eclipse incidents categorized as home invasions.

    There were 507 reported robberies at Virginia residences in 1999,
    compared with 1,474 last year, according to statistics compiled by
    Virginia State Police.

    To prevent home invasions, law-enforcement officials say simple steps
    such as using the exterior lights on your home, keeping doors locked
    and not opening the door for strangers can make you less vulnerable.

    Jessica Videtto learned that lesson the hard way -- her door was
    unlocked, and she didn't have on outside light on when the assailants
    entered her home. Since then, she has put a light in the hallway
    leading to her apartment and sleeps with a knife under her bed.

    She offered this simple advice for others: "At least lock your doors."

    3. Chantilly Woman Shot, Killed in her Home

    Another person murdered in her house.


    Chantilly Woman Shot, Killed in her Home
    Leaves four, young children; murderer still at large.
    By Bonnie Hobbs
    August 2, 2007

    THE TRAGEDY occurred at 13620 Pennsboro Drive, in Chantilly's
    Brookfield community, a stone's throw from Brookfield Elementary. The
    victim was Morena Magdalena Martinez, 29, who held down two jobs to
    support her family. Also shot, but "currently recovering," according
    to Fairfax County police, was a 29-year-old man who was a high-school
    friend of hers. Authorities have not released his name but, according
    to a court document, both he and Martinez were shot "multiple times."

    A neighbor was involved in the aftermath. He was asleep, around
    1:30-2 a.m., when someone knocked on his door. "There was a guy in a
    T-shirt and shorts, blood running down his left arm, and he said, in
    broken English, 'Please call the police,'" said the neighbor. "I'd
    never seen him before." At the time, the neighbor asked the wounded
    man in Spanish where his house was. And when he pointed in the
    direction of Martinez' house, the neighbor initially thought he meant
    a nearby home where people had recently gotten into a fight. So he
    didn't realize at first that his friend had also been shot. Weak
    from his injury, the man then lay down on the neighbor's doorstep.
    And when he did, said the neighbor, "I saw a hole in his arm, and
    there was blood coming out from behind him, like someone had shot him
    in the back. I didn't want to turn him over because he was moaning
    and in pain and I didn't want to hurt him more."

    So the neighbor called 911 and told the man to stay calm and sit
    tight because police were on the way. "I sat there and watched him,
    and he just kept saying, 'Morena Martinez,'" said the neighbor. "But
    I knew her as Lanie so [at first], I didn't have any idea it was her."

    Later, when a Spanish-speaking police officer arrived, he learned the
    murder victim was the woman he knew. He said eight or more police
    cruisers converged on their street and officers were able to tell
    which home was the crime scene by the blood they saw outside the
    house, on the front doorway and front step leading inside.

    "I told them there were four kids and a dog inside, so they called
    someone inside the house," said the neighbor. "Then they went in and
    got them all. I heard them shouting and making sure everybody was
    safe. A police officer handed me a child, and EMS checked all of them
    to make sure they were OK."

    A July 28 affidavit for a warrant to search Martinez' home for items
    including "handguns, ammunition, cartridge casings, bullets, hairs,
    fibers, bloody clothes and furniture, latent fingerprints and shoe
    impressions" confirmed that her body was discovered in her bedroom.
    In the affidavit, homicide Det. John Wallace wrote that she'd
    sustained "what appeared to be multiple gunshot wounds to her body."
    Describing Martinez as a "very sweet person," the neighbor said he's
    angry that "someone was that narrow-minded to kill a woman who had
    four children depending on her. He was selfish, and I hope they catch

    Other neighbors, returning home to Pennsboro Drive from work, early
    Saturday morning, found their street blocked off and emergency
    vehicles everywhere. Marciano Gomez arrived at 3 a.m. and was puzzled
    by the commotion. "I saw the police, but I didn't know why they were
    there," he said.
    Three-year resident Victor Correra got home Saturday evening, around
    6 p.m., to find traffic still barred from Lees Corner Road and
    Pennsboro. "I asked the police what happened and they didn't answer,"
    he said. "Normally, it's a quiet area with no problems. Now I'm
    putting up a security fence."

    4. We can never predict who or when

    While this did not happen in Virginia, it emphasizes yet AGAIN:

    * Have a gun on your person at home or within very fast reach at all times
    * Don't assume you will have time to go chasing all over the house to
    get your gun - seconds could be the difference between life and death
    * Don't assume you can reason or beg your way out of being murdered.
    Many murderers enjoy killing and get an even bigger thrill when their
    victim begs and pleads to be allowed to live. Your only hope is to
    be able to overpower or kill them before they kill you :-(


    August 7, 2007
    When Horror Came to a Connecticut Family
    CHESHIRE, Conn., Aug. 6 ó Dr. William A. Petit Jr., his head bloodied
    and legs bound, stumbled out of a rear basement door of his two-story
    home here into a pouring rain, calling the name of a neighbor for

    The neighbor heard the shouting, but so did the two men inside the
    house, who peeked outside from an upstairs window. They were both
    serial burglars with drug habits, having racked up numerous
    convictions for stealing car keys and pocketbooks.

    This time, they took something far more precious.

    The men, the authorities say, had already strangled Dr. Petitís wife,
    Jennifer Hawke-Petit, 48, and in short order would also kill the
    coupleís two daughters, Hayley, 17, and Michaela, 11. The elder
    suspect, Steven J. Hayes, 44, had poured gasoline on the girls and
    their mother, according to a lawyer and a law enforcement official
    involved in the case, in hopes of concealing DNA evidence of sexual
    assault. He had raped Ms. Hawke-Petit, and his partner, Joshua
    Komisarjevsky, 26, had sexually assaulted Michaela.

    Moments after Dr. Petit escaped, as the house was being surrounded by
    police officers, the men lighted the gasoline. The girls were tied to
    their beds but alive when the gas Mr. Hayes had spread around the
    house was set aflame.

    It was about 9:50 a.m. on July 23 when Dr. Petit, 50, burst into his
    backyard on what is normally a quiet street in a quiet town of 29,000
    in central Connecticut. On this stormy summer morning it was the site
    of one of the most savage crimes in the state in decades. By 10:01,
    Mr. Hayes and Mr. Komisarjevsky had been captured. On Tuesday morning
    they are expected to be presented in New Haven County Court for their
    first appearance in the venue where they will be tried; they have
    been formally charged in State Superior Court in Meriden with capital
    felonies, which could bring the death penalty.

    Interviews with law enforcement officials and lawyers for the men,
    and friends, co-workers and relatives of all involved, along with a
    study of court records, paint a picture of what happened that morning
    and show that there were missed opportunities on both sides of the
    law leading up to the deaths.

    The criminal justice system failed to treat Mr. Hayes and Mr.
    Komisarjevsky as serious offenders despite long histories of
    recidivism, repeatedly setting them free on parole. The suspects
    never capitalized on those chances to turn their lives around,
    instead apparently forming a new criminal alliance after meeting at a
    drug treatment center in Hartford.

    "There's no question about it: The system didn't work," Dr. Petit's
    father, William A. Petit Sr., 73, said last weekend outside his home
    in Plainville, 12 miles north, where the family has long formed a
    pillar of civic life. He paused, then added: "It's too late now."

    The authorities say the intruders entered the house through an open
    door at 3 a.m. Monday as Dr. Petit slept in a chair on the first
    floor, his wife and daughters in their rooms upstairs. The previous
    evening, the men had followed Ms. Hawke-Petit and Michaela home from
    the parking lot of a Super Stop & Shop three miles away.

    The authorities say that the Petit home was at least the third in
    Cheshire that the two men burglarized since the start of that
    weekend. They sneaked into one through a screen door and took a money
    clip - with credit and A.T.M. cards, and $140 in cash ó from the
    kitchen counter Sunday morning. They broke in through a back screen
    of another Saturday night.

    Why the spree turned violent on Sorghum Mill Drive remains unclear.

    On Sunday evening, Mr. Hayes and Mr. Komisarjevsky had driven to a
    nearby Wal-Mart and bought an air rifle and rope. Once inside the
    house, they clubbed Dr. Petit over the head with a baseball bat and
    tied him up in the basement.

    Between 4 and 4:30 a.m., Mr. Hayes went to a BP station on Main
    Street, where he bought four cans of gasoline.

    A Note to a Bank Teller

    Shortly before 9:30 a.m. that Monday, Ms. Hawke-Petit walked into a
    Bank of America branch and withdrew $15,000 from the account she
    shared with her husband. Mr. Hayes waited in the parking lot in
    Maplecroft Plaza, the same shopping center where the two men had
    watched Ms. Hawke-Petit and her daughter the day before.

    Ms. Hawke-Petit told the teller that she had to have the money
    because her family was being held hostage, and that if the police
    were notified, her family would be killed.

    Debbie Biggins, 50, was opening a new account at the bank when she
    noticed Ms. Hawke-Petit, who seemed tense and in a rush. "I could
    feel it," Mrs. Biggins said in a recent interview. "I felt fear."
    After Ms. Hawke-Petit left, Mrs. Biggins said, she saw the teller
    hand a manager a slip of paper.

    A bank employee called 911 about 9:30. "The call came in as a
    suspicious transaction with a hostage situation, but it wasn't
    clear," said a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of
    anonymity because the matter is still under investigation. The
    Cheshire police have refused to release a full timeline indicating
    when officers arrived on Sorghum Mill Drive, but described their
    response as "immediate."

    By 9:45 a.m., seven to nine Cheshire police officers, including SWAT
    team members, were working to secure a perimeter around the Petit
    house, and a police helicopter was en route.

    About five minutes later, Dr. Petit stumbled out of a basement door
    onto the rear of his property, calling the name of a neighbor, who
    took the bleeding doctor into his garage and dialed 911.

    After lighting the fire, the two men jumped into the familyís
    Chrysler Pacifica sport utility vehicle. They crashed into a police
    vehicle in the driveway, then slammed into two police cruisers parked
    nose to nose as a barricade not far from the house, where they were
    taken into custody.

    Inside the house on Sorghum Mill Drive, Hayley and Michaela died of
    smoke inhalation, not from their burns, according to the Connecticut
    medical examiner. Their mother was found downstairs.
  2. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    5. Editorial in response to the incident in Item #4 above

    [I disagree with the article about people not having guns unless they
    are trained. That is dangerous - some anti-gun government bureaucrat
    will undoubtedly will set the 'training' standard. Our forefathers
    got along just fine without mandatory training programs. - PVC]


    Time to admit the 'gun nuts' are right

    By Keith C. Burris

    In the aftermath of the Petit family slayings in Cheshire, we all
    reached for explanations: How do human beings sink this low? How
    could this tragedy have been prevented? Why?
    There are so many nagging questions. They all need to be asked. And
    maybe some old arguments need to be hashed out again.

    Why not a more stringent "three strikes and you're out" law in this
    state? Connecticut's version is so weak that it's more like "30
    strikes and we'll think about it while you strike again."

    Why not speed up the criminal trial process for repeat violent
    offenders? Get them off the streets. It's been proposed many times.
    Most people agree it should be done. It never happens.

    Can't we better monitor the probation process?

    Can't we do a better job of predicting -- figuring out which
    non-violent criminals are about to turn violent?

    Are home alarms really effective?

    How about dogs?

    But somehow all of these ideas pale before the barbarity of this
    particular crime.

    That is why one old question is worth asking again. It is this: What
    if the Second Amendment is for real? Is it possible that it should it
    be revered, just like the First Amendment?

    Sam Ervin said, "The Constitution should be taken like mountain
    whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." Maybe that applies to all of the

    Is it possible that the Second Amendment is not a quaint and
    antiquated remnant of a world that will never return, but an idea as
    relevant and sound today as when it was written?

    Is it possible that we are not talking about the right of the
    government to form a militia when there is no standing army, but the
    right of the individual to defend himself, or herself, against both
    tyranny and lawlessness? Maybe we are talking about the right of
    self-defense -- the right of the individual to take up arms against a
    government that wants to oppress, be it foreign or domestic. And the
    right of the individual to defend himself against criminals, brutes,
    and barbarians when local police seem unable to stop them.

    Might the Second Amendment matter almost as much as the First?

    I think the answer is yes.

    And just like the First, the Second is practical, newly relevant, and
    far wiser than the watered-down alternatives.

    I don't think George Bush wants to impose martial law on his fellow
    citizens. But he has diluted habeas corpus. And he has enlarged Big
    Brother. You have to stop and think about a government that wants to
    control the thoughts and behavior of its people.

    Should such a government be permitted to disarm them as well?

    And whereas the reform of the criminal justice system along some of
    the lines suggested above (a real "three strikes" law and faster
    trials for violent offenders) would not have saved the lives of
    Jennifer, and Hayley, and Michaela Petit, a gun might have.

    I don't say it would have.

    I say it might have.

    Had Dr. William Petit had access to a gun and known how to use it, he
    might have been able to dispatch the two perpetrators, who were armed
    with only an air gun and ropes.

    Moreover, the three victims here were women.

    What if Mrs. Hawke-Petit had been trained in the use of firearms?
    Suppose she had been able to get to a gun after her husband was
    beaten into unconsciousness by the invaders? Or when she was forced
    to take one captor to the bank to fetch him money?

    It's worth thinking about.

    Women and children are now the major targets of predators in our
    society. Government is not protecting them very well. Many
    professional women who work in cities know this and take courses in
    self-defense. A gun may be the only realistic self-defense against
    the sort of criminals we are talking about here.

    And if a few women took care of a few thugs in cases like this; if a
    few stories like this one ended in a different way -- with a woman
    blowing one of these brutes to kingdom come -- it might be a
    deterrent. Lives upon lives might be spared.

    A friend of mine said: "The gun nuts are back."

    They are.

    And they are right.

    Mind you, we are talking about arming people who are trained and know
    how to use a weapon.

    No one should have a gun who has not been trained.

    Just as one gets training in handling a boat, motorcycle, or car, one
    must learn how to use and safely store a gun. (The National Rifle
    Association maintains an extensive national network of programs in
    firearms training and education.)

    And, obviously, no one would be forced to own a gun.

    A second caveat: Encouraging citizens to arm themselves is no
    "answer" to crimes like the Petit murders.

    An "answer" does not exist.

    But it is one of several remedies when we are faced with palpable evil.

    All possible remedies should be on the table:

    -- Various reforms of the justice system, like a real
    three-strike-law for predatory offenders.

    -- Better psychological treatment for troubled youth.

    -- Religious training, in both love and self-restraint, especially
    when people are young.

    -- Prison programs that both retain the hard core and educate the educable.

    -- More and better home alarm systems.

    -- More cops visible in more neighborhoods.

    -- Dobermans.

    All of these approaches have merit.

    So does self-defense.

    None of these options "fix" a society that can produce human beings
    who torture and kill the defenseless for sport.

    No one step or program can plug every hole in America's justice
    system, or its soul.

    But there are times when a gun in the hands of a potential victim may
    save a life.

    Let's admit -- since the murderers, and druggies, and psychos, and
    thieves already have guns -- that arming the peaceful, law-abiding,
    decent, and productive people, whether in a school, or a private
    home, or on the way to a parked car, is an option that also has merit.

    Keith C. Burris is editorial page editor of the Journal Inquirer.

    ©Journal Inquirer 2007

    6. Why do you need all those bullets anyway?


    Why do you need to carry more than one magazine full of bullets?

    One of our members writes: "The McDonald's across the street from my
    house was the scene of a mob (20 to 30) beating Saturday. Just one
    more reason to have your gun on you with extra magazines. We always
    carry at least two extras with us at all times, but have often been
    asked why we feel we need to carry so many bullets, well I plan on
    cutting out the article to carry with me from now on."

    Victims beaten in gang attack
    Tuesday, August 7, 2007

    Two Dale City men were beaten with bottles in a McDonald's parking
    lot early Saturday morning by members of a local gang, the victims

    Prince William County police are looking for suspects involved in the
    mob assault, which occurred about 2 a.m. Saturday in the 2800 block
    of Dale Boulevard.

    No arrests have been made.

    Lerone Tate, 21, and Meko Williams, 23, said they were on their way
    home from Oasis, a bar in Woodbridge, when they stopped at McDonald's
    for some food.

    They saw a large group of people in the parking lot as Tate and
    Williams walked inside, they said.

    "When we came to the door they were pointing and saying 'yeah, there
    they go right there,' " William said.

    Tate said he and Williams, his sister's fiance, were surrounded by
    people who punched, pushed and beat them with bottles and a bat.

    The assault lasted about 15 minutes, the men said.

    They said the attack was unprovoked, but they recognized some of the
    people in the group as some who had an altercation with Williams'
    younger cousin a few weeks ago.

    Some of them could have been members of a local gang called 5-5, they
    said. Police could not confirm the suspects' involvement in a gang.

    About 15 people followed his teenage cousin home after summer school
    a few weeks ago, Tate said.

    "I guess they were not satisfied," he said.

    The teenage cousin wasn't with them at McDonald's that night, but a
    different cousin was -- he ran inside to ask the employees at the
    restaurant to call 911.

    "I was hit with bats, a bottle," Tate said. They just attacked me,
    some 20 or 30 people punched me in my right eye, they kept punching
    me and hitting me knocked me to the ground."

    "We all was scared, but we had to fight for our life right there and
    nobody was going to help us," Williams said. "I had to pray my way
    through it, hoping I'd get to the car."

    The police never showed and it was not clear if anyone inside the
    restaurant ever called 911.

    A manager at McDonald's on Monday would not comment on the incident.

    Luckily for Tate and Williams the crowd of attackers retreated and
    the bloodied men drove home.

    Tate went to the emergency room where doctors stitched his right
    eyebrow and treated a gash under his right eye where a bottle sliced
    his face.

    Someone bit Williams on his neck and he had cuts on his face and the
    back of his head from bottles, he said.

    Officer D.J. Crawford took the report from Potomac Hospital.

    The incident is still under investigation, according to Officer Erika
    Hernandez, police spokeswoman.

    7. Senate Panel Sends Brady Expansion Bill To The Floor

    This just reinforces what we reported in the 8/06/07 VA-ALERT, Item
    #5, that anti-gun zealot Carolyn McCarthy said about her partnership
    with the NRA. "...the National Rifle Association still wields
    tremendous influence in the halls of Congress and their blessing is
    required for any bill that enforces or creates gun laws." So, if
    this or any other gun control passes, it's because the NRA has
    blessed it.

    The fact that this bill is being passed by voice vote is a tactic to
    protect legislators who vote wrong. The NRA obviously doesn't want
    the legislators to feel the heat from their constituents if they vote
    for this gun control bill.

    From GOA: It's truly amazing. You wouldn't think that something as
    controversial as gun control could fly through the House of
    Representatives, and then through a Senate committee without facing
    at least one recorded vote. But on Thursday of last week, the Senate
    Judiciary Committee passed the Senate version of the McCarthy bill by
    an unrecorded voice vote. The draft bill - which is still unnumbered
    - is being sponsored by the chairman of the committee, Sen. Patrick
    Leahy (D-VT). The Brady expansion provisions in this bill are
    identical to the ones in the McCarthy bill and would easily deny
    thousands (if not millions) of law-abiding citizens their right to
    own firearms.


    The reason why some gun owners support the Leahy-McCarthy measure is
    they think the bill will make it easier for many Americans to regain
    their rights -- such as military veterans who have been
    illegitimately denied a firearm. What they don't realize is that this
    is a pie-in-the-sky promise.

    Veterans will have to find a pro-gun shrink that will certify that
    said veteran is not a danger to himself or others. (Question: Would
    you ever certify that someone you don't know could NEVER be a danger
    to himself or others?) They will then have to hire a good attorney,
    take the government to court and hope they can force the FBI to
    delete their names from the NICS system.

    It must be stressed that thousands of veterans have already been
    illegally banned from owning guns without being convicted of
    anything. Not only that, thousands more will have their names placed
    on the Brady list of banned buyers if this legislation passes. It is
    beside the point that they might be able to get their rights
    restored. They never should have lost them in the first place.
    Further, they will be forced to spend a lot of money to regain their
    gun rights -- rights which were unconstitutionally stripped by the
    Leahy-McCarthy bill.

    The Leahy bill next goes to the entire Senate, but due to the fact
    that Congress is now in recess, don't expect to see any action on the
    bill until September.

    So keep up the pressure on your Senators. And please stay tuned.
  3. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    8. Senator Schumer's take on the bill


    Senate Committee Passes School Safety Bill Including Schumer Plan To
    Tighten Background Checks For Gun Buyers
    Tue, 08/07/2007

    Require States To Submit Information To National Database; Would
    Require Mental Health Information Be Turned Over to the Feds and
    Shared Between State to Ensure Guns are Not Sold to Dangerous
    Individuals; Had This Practice Already Been In Place, the Tragic
    Shooting at Virginia Tech Might Have Been Prevented

    August 2, 2007 -- Today, Senator Charles E. Schumer announced that a
    school safety legislative package including his plan to tighten
    background checks for gun purchasers made its first step towards
    becoming law. The School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvements Act,
    which was authored by Senator Patrick Leahy and includes Senator
    Schumer's language to strengthen the National Instant Criminal
    Background Check System (NICS) was passed unanimously today by a
    Senate Judiciary Committee vote.

    The shooting of 32 people at Virginia Tech last spring, perpetrated
    by a gunman who had been admitted to a psychiatric hospital and
    deemed a "danger to himself and others" by a judge, exposed grave
    shortcomings in the system meant to prevent criminals and other
    dangerous individuals from obtaining firearms. The legislation would
    strengthen requirements for states to pass critical mental health
    information along to the federal government for inclusion in NICS, so
    that a pre-purchase background check would show a person falls into
    the category of those prohibited from owning firearms. Had Cho
    Seung-Huiís mental condition shown up in his federal background
    check, he may never have been allowed to buy a handgun. Similar
    legislation, sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (NY-4) recently
    passed the House of Representatives.

    "Our first line of defense against another national tragedy is
    ensuring that guns stay out of the hands of violent people," Schumer
    said. "Many of the rules to do exactly that are already on the books,
    and the NICS system is key to ensuring that gun buyers know when not
    to sell a gun to a particular individual. But unless states are
    diligent in collecting, updating and submitting information to the
    national database, the system cannot work. I have been working on
    this issue for many years, and I am happy to see that Chairman Leahy
    has made it such a priority for the Committee."

    When a person attempts to purchase a firearm, a background check is
    run through the National Instant Criminal Background, or "NICS"
    system. A NICS call center representative (or automated system) runs
    a check of several databases to see if the purchaser has a record
    prohibiting him or her from buying a gun under federal law. The
    majority of potential gun buyers are either approved or denied almost
    instantly. But if the computer search is unable to reach a final
    determination, a NICS representative will conduct a manual search for
    missing information that will allow NICS to make a final
    determination. In such a situation, the NICS representative must
    attempt to get the missing information by calling state and local
    courthouses, judges, clerks, or even law enforcement officers to get
    the information. If the NICS representative cannot get an answer in
    three days, the gun dealer automatically has permission to sell the
    gun to the buyer.

    A criminal background check is only as good as the records that the
    states provide to the system. Millions of criminal and mental health
    records are inaccessible to the NICS system, mostly because state and
    local governments lack the money to submit the records. Furthermore,
    the process is often spotty, as states are not required by law to
    turn over all pertinent information that could potentially prohibit a
    person from buying a gun. As a result, many people who simply should
    not have guns are allowed to purchase them.

    In the case of the Virginia Tech shooting, Cho allegedly acquired the
    two firearms in two separate transactions, both within weeks of the
    massacre. For both purchases, he was required to show the store clerk
    a driver's license and complete paperwork before passing the
    background check. Because no mental health information was in the
    system, he was able to pass his background checks.

    However, two years before buying the guns, Cho was accused of
    stalking two of his fellow female students at Virginia Tech, and had
    been civilly committed. At the time, a judge found that Cho "presents
    an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness." He was
    then briefly admitted to a psychiatric facility for an overnight stay
    as an outpatient. This information was never conveyed to the federal
    government and never appeared on Choís background checks.

    This bill would provide $400 million to state agencies and $125
    million for state courts to upgrade their computers to ensure speedy
    delivery of information. Using a carrot-and-stick approach, states
    who poorly comply with the law will risk losing 5% of their funding
    under the Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968. Significant
    incentives will be provided to states that have good reporting
    records. States who comply would be required to share information -
    such as an individualís relevant, disqualifying history of mental
    illness - with the FBI. The law would also requires federal agencies
    like the Department of Homeland Security to make their records
    available to the NICS database to ensure timely and thorough
    background checks of those who purchase guns. The bill also requires
    states to set up procedures whereby a person who previously had been
    deemed mentally ill can petition to regain the right to own a
    firearm. Similar legislation, sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy
    (NY-4) is currently pending in the House of Representatives.

    Federal law clearly prohibits the purchase of firearms by those who
    have been "adjudicated mentally defective" or "committed to a mental
    health institution." Also forbidden from possessing guns are people

    * Are subject to a court order restraining them from domestic violence;
    * Are under indictment for, or have been convicted of a felony;
    * Are fugitives from justice;
    * Are users or addicts of controlled substances;
    * Have been convicted of a domestic violence misdemeanor
    * Have been dishonorably discharged from the military;
    * Are illegal aliens; or
    * Have renounced U.S. Citizenship.

    "It is unfortunate that it would take a tragedy of the magnitude of
    Virginia Tech - the worst shooting massacre in U.S. history - for us
    to finally address this problem and counter it with sensible,
    responsible legislation," Schumer said. "The bottom line is that
    someone who has been adjudicated a danger to himself and to others
    has no business owning a firearm, period."

    9. Chicago gun buy-back nets $1,700 for shooting program

    HAHAHA! I love what a gun group, "Guns Save Life", in Illinois just
    did with a 'gun buy back' in Chicago.

    Buy back my rear end. It's a buy up. The government never owned these guns.

    The short version:

    [See photos at the link]

    The long version:

    Long story short: Some unnamed corporate sponsor coughs up about
    $600,000 in pre-paid credit cards to be given away in Chicago for
    guns in any condition on July 21. A number of Guns Save Life members
    donated various clunkers and non-firing pieces of (s)crap metal and
    on that fateful day, I ventured to the heart of the not-so-nice part
    of Chicago and traded a total of 23 guns for 23 $100 pre-paid credit
    cards, netting $1700 for Guns Save Life.

    We thought it fitting to use that money to sponsor ammunition for the
    NRA Youth Shooting Camp this weekend at Darnall's in Bloomington.

    This is the longest-running NRA camp of its type in the nation!

    Not only that, but we used most of five of the cards to buy two CZ
    rifles to be given away to two of the lucky young people at the camp!

    10. Who needs a gun at Wachovia?


    Miramar police hunt shot carjacking suspect

    By Macollvie Jean-Francois

    August 2, 2007

    Police are searching area hospitals for a man they say was shot when
    he tried to steal someone's truck Thursday morning.

    The man, described in his early 20s, was shot by Bruce Allen
    Williams, of Opa-locka, after the man fired at Williams and tried to
    drive away in Williams' truck outside a Wachovia bank, 6810 Miramar
    Parkway, at about 5:30 a.m., police said.

    Williams, 57, had just withdrawn money from the bank's ATM and gotten
    into his white Lincoln Mark LT truck when two men got out of a brown
    Toyota or Honda and rushed him, police spokesman Bill Robertson said.

    One of the men pointed a gun at Williams and ordered him out of the
    truck. Williams got out, but the truck was in drive and continued
    moving forward. A suspect jumped into the truck and shot at Williams,
    but Williams pulled out his own .44-caliber revolver and fired five
    shots at the man, Robertson said.

    The man, dripping blood, and his partner fled on foot northbound on
    SW 68th Avenue, and it's believed another man in the brown car picked
    them up.

    Police used a helicopter and police dogs, but were unable to track the men.

    Williams was not hurt. Robertson said the men wanted the truck, not the money.

    "I'm at a real low right now," Williams said as he sat and smoked a
    cigarette outside the bank Thursday morning. He refused to comment

    Williams has a permit to carry his gun, Robertson said.

    The wounded suspect was described as about 5-foot-6, weighing about
    120 pounds and wearing a brown shirt and dark pants. His partner was
    about 5-foot-8, 160 pounds, wearing a white shirt and having a short
    afro and goutee.

    There was no description available for the driver of the getaway car.

    11. Radford CHP Fingerprinting

    Executive Member Dave Knight has been trying to fix Radford illegally
    fingerprinting permit applicants. Dave sent VCDL leadership this


    Here's is the latest on Radford City's CHP Fingerprinting.

    I stopped at the Radford City PD this morning to make an appointment
    to meet with Chief Harmon, regarding statutory compliance of their
    CHP fingerprinting requirements and procedure.

    Instead of making an appointment, however, the Chief met with me
    immediately. He stated that, during his absence, Lt. Angie Frye, had
    researched the concerns I presented, addressed them by correcting
    department fingerprinting procedure "to comply with the statues", and
    "circulated an email" regarding the changes. I specifically
    mentioned: no fingerprinting for CHP renewals, no photographs for
    initial CHP application fingerprints, timely post-background-check
    return (to applicant), or destruction, of hardcopy fingerprint cards,
    and he indicated that all the issues had been addressed.

    I then asked him to cite the local ordinance authorizing CHP
    fingerprinting, because I had been unable to find it at municode.com.
    He said he didn't know, but would find out, and get back to me. [The
    Chief, somewhat embarrassed, has now confirmed that Radford has NO
    fingerprinting ordinance, making all fingerprinting for CHPs illegal.
    So, if you're going to apply for a CHP in Radford, refuse to provide
    fingerprints if they request them. - PVC]

    12. Another reason not to fingerprint...

    Member Patrick O'Neal writes:

    I was issued my permit to carry a concealed handgun back in April of
    2005 in Isle of Wight County.

    When I applied, they fingerprinted me, and I was given the option to
    have my fingerprint card returned to me upon completion of the
    background check. They used an electric machine to fingerprint me,
    so they very well may have stored an electronic copy without my

    Either shortly before or after my permit was issued, I received an
    envelope in the mail containing not only my fingerprint card with my
    name and address on it, but some other person's fingerprint card
    complete with name and address as well.

    I contacted the sheriff's department and they sent a deputy out to
    retrieve the card that same evening. For some reason I kept my mouth
    shut about it, but I would have been livid if the same had happened
    to my fingerprints.

    I never shared this before because at the time of the incident I
    thought Isle of Wight handled the mistake professionally, however
    this situation could have been avoided entirely if they chose not to
    fingerprint in the first place.

    13. Idaho sheriff says more concealed permits on campus would make
    schools safer!

    I'm waiting for a Virginia Sheriff or Chief of Police with some guts
    to step up to the plate and make a statement like this:


    ID sheriff: more concealed gun permits would boost public safety

    August 8th, 2007
    The Associated Press

    MOSCOW, Idaho (AP) - The sheriff of a north-central Idaho county
    where a shooting rampage left four dead and three wounded last May
    wants more people to obtain concealed weapons permits and carry guns,
    including on the University of Idaho campus, to improve public safety.

    "In my opinion, if there were more students with (concealed weapons
    permits), the world would be safer," Latah County Sheriff Wayne
    Rausch told the Lewiston Tribune on Tuesday. "Just because we (law
    enforcement officers) are charged with protecting the public, doesn't
    mean the public shouldn't be able to protect itself."

    The university bans guns except under supervised circumstances at its
    firing range. Except for law enforcement officials, the university
    requires that firearms "be transported to the range unloaded,
    encased, with a trigger lock attached or otherwise rendered

    Rausch's idea also contradicts Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney, who late
    last month asked for a legal opinion from the state attorney
    general's office on whether the city has the authority to ban both
    concealed and exposed weapons in public areas such as city buildings.

    Late on May 19, Jason Hamilton killed his wife at their Moscow home
    before driving to the courthouse and firing some 200 gunshots into a
    sheriff's dispatch center. There, he killed one law enforcement
    officer and wounded two others, as well as wounding a man who armed
    himself and ran to help.

    Hamilton then went to the nearby First Presbyterian Church, fatally
    shooting a caretaker. Hamilton fired as many as 80 rounds inside the
    church before taking his own life.

    Tania Thompson, director of media relations at the university, told
    The Associated Press on Wednesday that school officials declined to
    comment about Rausch's push for more concealed weapons on campus.

    Chaney did not immediately return a call from the AP.

    Sgt. Brannon Jordan, who is still recovering from being shot by
    Hamilton that night, said he agrees with Rausch when it comes to
    having more concealed weapons, but added, "When I make contact with a
    person, I like to be the only one with a gun."

    Rausch said people who apply for concealed weapons permits are
    screened, and are typically not a problem. He said some 540 people in
    the county now carry concealed weapons.

    One of them showed up at Monday's City council meeting and said he
    was carrying a handgun.

    "When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away," David
    Klingenberg, 36, told the meeting. "I carry a gun because a cop is
    too heavy."

    Rausch is the only law enforcement officer in the county with the
    authority to issue concealed weapons permits to individuals.

    "Most of those are good citizens," he said.

    Rausch said that if Moscow officials ban guns in public buildings and
    parks, they will have to pay to enforce the ban.

    "We don't have any system in the courthouse to back up the ban on
    guns," Rausch said. "The bad guy is going to go right through the

    He said a metal detector screens people entering the federal building
    in Moscow, but that the county courthouse, City Hall and other public
    buildings in the county have no such systems.
  4. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    14. GMU issues new gun ban!

    GMU did not have an enforceable gun ban on their campus, but they
    acted like they did. They have now created another ban that they
    think is enforceable.

    It's going to be up to the General Assembly to put an end to this baloney.


    Key points:

    * 100% gun ban for students, faculty, and staff - even in vehicles,
    so high school students commuting to college from high school campus
    will have to go home and drop off their unloaded guns from their
    vehicle first.

    * LEO exemption appears to be pretty broad and does not require
    student, staff, or faculty LEOs to be on duty.

    * No mention of any gun ban for the public in campus buildings or
    even "campus events."

    15. LTE in Alexandria Times

    <http://tinyurl.com/384xbc> [Second item down]

    Heart's right, head's wrong
    Ms. Spangler's heart is in the right place, but her head is not.

    Seung Hui-Cho passed every gun-control check that was required of
    him. This included showing two forms of identification for each
    handgun purchase, passing an FBI background check for each handgun
    purchase, and waiting 30 days before he could take possession of his
    second handgun.

    These purchases might not have happened, had the appropriate
    authorities at VA Tech and in Blacksburg not been legally constrained
    in getting him committed instead of released on an outpatient basis
    when he was declared a danger to himself. As a result, his name was
    never forwarded to the National Instant Check System (NICS). This
    partly resulted in allowing him to legally purchase a firearm.

    What Ms. Spangler's movement should be protesting instead is the lack
    of healthcare funding in Virginia and some of the aspects of privacy
    law regarding release of personal information under HIPAA and FERPA.
    It is these two areas that caused Cho to slip through the cracks.

    However, protesteasyguns.com, and other anti-gun, anti-Constitution
    organizations tend to ignore the real causes and underlying facts of
    how 32 people were murdered on that terrible day. What is even more
    is that these same organizations want to limit legal concealed
    handgun permit holders from carrying on public universities and

    This creates a ready-made "victim zone" and exacerbates the problem
    of stopping a murderer.

    If one student, one professor, had been able to legally carry a
    concealed handgun that terrible day, Cho's murders could have been
    stopped. The signs that need to be held up at these "lie-in/die-ins"
    need to read: "One CHP holder could have prevented this, if they had
    been allowed to."

    Remember, when seconds count between life and death, the police are
    only minutes away.

    TJ Parmele

    16. LTE in Richmond Times-Dispatch on arming college staff and students


    Friday, Aug 10, 2007

    Arming School Officials Might Work

    Editor, Times-Dispatch:
    Gov. Tim Kaine's commission on the Virginia Tech massacre is
    evaluating installing locks on classroom doors. Locks -- what an
    innovative idea. But a controversy exists as to the cost (how does
    one price out 32 lives?) and the potential for locks to be used as a
    deterrent to rescuers if an attacker locked himself and his victims
    in a classroom.

    Does anyone think that a lock would have stopped the Virginia Tech
    madman? He planned far enough ahead to bring chains to his massacre
    to secure the doors against rescuers. He was a student. He would have
    been familiar with the locks and surely would have brought a method
    to defeat them.

    The commission has ignored the only deterrent that may have been
    helpful -- the threat to an attacker of a potentially armed
    professor, janitor, or even an armed adult student. I realize a
    college campus isn't the best place to allow immature students
    expressing their newfound freedom from parental guidance to be armed,
    but not allowing Virginia's educators and school staff, including
    those at elementary schools, the option is not only unconstitutional
    -- it is criminal. No other solution would have stopped the Virginia
    Tech killer.

    John Gergely. Newport News.

    17. Chesterfield to address firearms on public highways

    I want to let our Chesterfield members know your Board of Supervisors
    is going to change the ordinance to match state law. Wouldn't hurt
    if some attended to observe to make sure that is what happens. I
    will be running a VCDL meeting that night at the Norfolk County Rifle


    TAKE NOTICE Take notice that the Board of Supervisors of Chesterfield
    County, Virginia, at a regular scheduled meeting on August 22, 2007,
    at 6:30 p.m. in the County Public Meeting Room at the Chesterfield
    Administration Building, Rt. 10 and Lori Road, Chesterfield,
    Virginia, will hold a public hearing where persons affected may
    appear and present their views to consider:

    An ordinance to amend the Code of the County of Chesterfield, 1997,
    as amended, by amending and re-enacting Section 14-9 relating to
    carrying loaded firearms on public highways and providing for a
    penalty. After the public hearing, appropriate changes or corrections
    may be made to the ordinance.

    A copy of the ordinance is on file in the County Administrator's
    Office and the Clerk to the Board's Office (Room 504) at the
    Chesterfield County Administration Building, Chesterfield, Virginia,
    for public examination between the hours of 8:30 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.
    If further information is needed, please contact the County
    Attorney's Office at 748-1491 between the hours of 8:30 a.m. and 5:00

    The hearing is held at a public facility designed to be accessible to
    persons with disabilities. Any persons with questions on the
    accessibility of the facility or need for reasonable accommodations
    should contact Lisa Elko, Clerk to the board, at 748-1200. Persons
    needing interpreter services for the deaf must notify the Clerk to
    the Board no later than Friday, August 17, 2007.

    18. Guns Don't Kill People, Gun Control Does

    This Blog entry nicely dissects that nasty Dan Sheehan column in the
    Collegiate Times. It begins:

    "I spotted this article on the Collegiate Times website by Dan
    Sheehan. I propose that Dan Sheehan is stupid and I intend to prove
    it here by dissecting his ridiculous article piece by piece. I don't
    call him stupid as an attack. I mean that he is 'lacking or marked by
    lack of intellectual acuity,' and therefore should not be writing
    articles for the Collegiate Times or have any bearing on the CCW
    (concealed carry weapon) debate. His stupidity does not necessarily
    mean that CCW on campus is a good idea but I hope that by
    demonstrating his idiocy I will in doing so also demonstrate the
    desirability of CCW on campus."

    [The article is long -- and worthwhile reading.]


    19. Gun Talk on the radio

    Jeff Knox <Jeff@FirearmsCoalition.org> writes:

    I just wanted to note that Tom Gresham's Gun Talk is only available
    on 2 stations in Virginia: WFIR-960AM in Roanoke, and WNVA-1350AM in

    Neither station carries the whole show live.

    Perhaps we could do a little lobbying of local radio stations to get
    the show on more Virginia stations.

    If you think that some of our members might want such a fun little
    project to help spread the gun rights message, I would be happy to
    provide guidance and assistance. Having managed a radio station for
    many years (one of Tom's first affiliates), I know what to look for
    in picking a target station and how to motivate the station to take
    the show. Feel free to send anyone interested in working on this
    directly to my e-mail.

    20. Suffolk City Parks: "Right now we have no means to protect
    ourselves or our visitors"

    "Our parks are super, super safe, but there are occasional problems
    with drugs, graffiti and alcohol..."

    If their parks are so safe, then why do the park rangers want to be
    armed? To stop graffiti artists?

    Of course their rangers should be armed, but I wish they would be
    more honest as to why.


    Suffolk park rangers seek more authority to enforce laws
    The Virginian-Pilot
    August 4, 2007


    Fed up with vandalism, graffiti and alcohol use at city parks, park
    rangers want to be authorized to write tickets, arrest offenders and
    possibly carry handguns.

    This month, a formal request from Suffolk's Parks and Recreation
    Department for park rangers to be given some law enforcement powers
    goes to the circuit court in Suffolk. A judge has to approve park
    rangers' ability to write summonses to court.

    The focus is not on providing firearms to park rangers, said Lakita
    Frazier, director of Suffolk Parks and Recreation.

    "It's about the ability to enforce any laws being broken in the
    park," said Frazier. She began considering the change two years ago
    after one employee asked for law enforcement authority.

    Mayor Linda Johnson said sometimes it would be helpful for a ranger
    to be armed. A circuit court judge will determine whether that is

    "There are pros and cons," but ultimately it's up to a judge to
    decide, said Johnson, who does not think the City Council needs to
    vote on the issue.

    Currently park rangers in Suffolk do not have law enforcement powers.
    They rely on the Suffolk Police Department.

    J.R. Ruggiero, park ranger sergeant for Suffolk Parks and Recreation,
    said offenders often leave before police arrive. At larger parks, he
    said, police response times range from 30 minutes to an hour.

    "Our parks are super, super safe, but there are occasional problems
    with drugs, graffiti and alcohol," Ruggiero said. Rangers need the
    legal authority because the city is growing and more people are using
    the parks, he said.

    Park rangers in Chesapeake and Newport News have law enforcement
    powers. In Portsmouth, Norfolk and Virginia Beach, city police
    officers check the parks as part of regular patrols.

    Rick Rowe, parks coordinator for Virginia Beach, said park officials
    have discussed adding law enforcement powers to manage traffic and
    large crowds at the city's 229 parks and facilities.

    Rowe has concerns about turning park supervisors into law enforcement
    officials, though.

    "If we decided to ask them to do that, I think it would really hamper
    what their current duties are," Rowe said. As in other cities, park
    rangers in Virginia Beach maintain the grounds, open and close parks,
    supervise staff, provide customer service and rentals, collect money,
    and manage the facilities on the park property.

    Ruggiero, who went through law enforcement training at the Virginia
    Department of Criminal Justice Services in 2006, said the added
    duties would benefit Suffolk's parks.

    "Right now we have no means to protect ourselves or our visitors," he
    said. He would like Suffolk's five park rangers to have the option of
    becoming special conservators of the peace.

    Russ Greene, a ranger at Suffolk's Bennett's Creek Park, said he is
    interested in becoming a conservator. It would give him more
    confidence when approaching people who are breaking the law, he said.

    "We can actually do something about it" with legal authority, he
    said. "We have a lot of vandalism that goes on around here."

    Greene has no experience with a gun; he became a ranger because he
    loves working outside.

    Ruggiero would like to be granted the power to carry a firearm, issue
    summonses, make arrests and write citations. He also wants to be
    allowed to assist Suffolk police in an emergency.

    Frazier prefers that rangers' duties and powers be in effect only at
    the city's 41 parks and recreation sites, which span more than 1,000

    She said she will model Suffolk's ranger program after Chesapeake's,
    if a judge approves.

    Rangers in Chesapeake have been armed since 1976. "There's never been
    a gun fired, and, to my knowledge, never been one pulled," said
    Robert Clifton, Chesapeake's director of parks and recreation.

    Newport News has one of the largest fleets of armed park rangers in
    the area, with 20 covering 32 parks and recreation centers. They can
    arrest people and write tickets.

    21. 3 killed execution style behind school

    No way this happened behind a school. Schools are Gun-Free Zones by
    federal and state law.

    More proof that the government can't save you with their silly signs.
    Police can't be everywhere at once, as more victims learned the hard

    If only the antis would face up to the fact that there is true evil
    in this world and you can't reason with it:


    Killings of students shock Newark

    By DAVID PORTER, Associated Press Writer
    Mon Aug 6

    In a city where gun violence has become an all too common part of
    daily life, these shootings were enough to chill even the most
    hardened residents: Four young friends shot execution-style in a
    schoolyard just days before they were to head to college.

    Three were killed after being forced to kneel against a wall and then
    shot in the head at close range Saturday night, police said. A girl
    was found slumped near some bleachers 30 feet away, a gunshot wound
    to the head but still alive.

    The four Newark residents were to attend Delaware State University
    this fall. No arrests had been made by Monday and authorities had not
    identified suspects.

    The shootings ratcheted up anger in New Jersey's largest city, where
    the murder rate has risen 50 percent since 1998. The high number of
    killings have prompted billboards in the downtown area that scream,
    "HELP WANTED: Stop the Killings in Newark Now!"

    "Anyone who has children in the city is in panic mode," said Donna
    Jackson, president of Take Back Our Streets, a community-based
    organization. "It takes something like this for people to open up
    their eyes and understand that not every person killed in Newark is a
    drug dealer."

    The killings bring Newark's murder total for the year to 60, and put
    pressure on Mayor Cory A. Booker, who campaigned last year on a
    promise of reducing crime.

    Jackson said Booker "doesn't deserve another day, another second,
    while our children are at stake."

    Booker said Monday that it was "not a time to play politics and
    divide our city." A $50,000 reward was being offered for information
    leading to the arrest of those involved, he said.

    A month ago, Booker and Police Director Garry McCarthy announced that
    crime in the city had fallen by 20 percent in the first six months of
    2007 compared to a year ago. Yet despite decreases in the number of
    rapes, aggravated assaults and robberies, the murders have continued.

    Natasha Aeriel, 19, was listed in fair condition at Newark's
    University Hospital. Police identified her slain companions as her
    brother, Terrance Aeriel, 18, Iofemi Hightower, 20, and Dashon
    Harvey, 20.

    Authorities believe the shootings were a random robbery committed by
    several assailants and that some of the victims may have tried to
    resist their attackers. They were piecing together details of the
    attack from interviews with Natasha Aeriel.

    Hightower and the Aeriels had been friends since elementary school
    and played in the marching band at West Side High School. Terrance
    Aeriel, known as T.J., took Hightower to the school prom in 2006,
    chauffeured by his sister.

    At Delaware State they met Harvey, another musician, and struck up a
    friendship. Friends and family members said the four were not
    involved in drinking, drugs or gangs. They liked to congregate at the
    school, which sits in a middle-class neighborhood less than a mile
    from the campus of Seton Hall University, to hang out and listen to

    Harvey's father, James, said Monday the parents of the assailants
    were to blame.

    "If you raised your kids better, this would not happen," he said.

    Hightower worked two jobs and recently enrolled at the school. One of
    her jobs was at Brighton Gardens, an assisted living center in nearby
    West Orange, where her mother also worked.

    On the afternoon of the killings, she told her mother she planned to
    spend the night at Natasha Aeriel's house near the Mount Vernon

    "The last time I heard her voice was Saturday night," Hightower said
    between sobs. "She called me from work to let me know Natasha was
    going to pick her up and she was going to spend the night. She told
    me she loved me."

    The Aerials' mother, Renee Tucker, said the last time she saw them
    was around 10:30 p.m. Saturday, when they told her they were going
    around the corner to get something to eat.

    "They said they were going to come right back to the house," Tucker said.
  5. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    22. Able2Know.com Debates College Carry!

    Member Andrew Dysart writes:

    The general knowledge forum <http://www.able2know.com> has a thread
    debating one of my latest articles:


    "OmSigDAVID" seems to be alone on the side supporting college carry.
    If anyone is big on blogging, you might want to chime in and help him
    out. He has made some excellent points supporting us and 2nd
    Amendment rights in general.

    23. Good web site for campus gun ban info


    Thoughtful people know that forewarned is forearmed. This website is
    a collection of good thinking that may be useful, about the topic.

    24. Essay: Why the gun in civilization?

    A lot of you have forwarded me this for inclusion in the Update:


    Why The Gun In Civilization?
    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.

    If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either
    convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under
    threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two
    categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact
    through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social
    interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is
    the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use
    reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your
    threat or employment of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on
    equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal
    footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single gay guy on equal
    footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun
    removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between
    a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad
    force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more
    civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm
    makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course,
    is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed
    either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most
    of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by
    the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of
    a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a
    successful living in a society where the state has granted him a
    force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal
    that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is
    fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are
    won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury
    on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute
    lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come
    out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes
    lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not
    the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

    The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an
    octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply
    wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal
    and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight,
    but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means
    that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm
    afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit
    the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only
    the actions of those who would do so by force.

    It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is
    a civilized act.

    25. 2nd Amendment T-Shirts

    Oleg Volk, one of the Moderators on "The High Road" forum, has put a
    bunch of his images on T-Shirts.

    The THR forum is also pretty-pro VCDL, with several members
    cross-posting the VA-Alert Action Items when they impact more than
    just VA residents.


    26. Goochland Board of Supervisor members who voted against the
    sporting clay range

    Here are the real problem supervisors in Goochland, who voted against
    Andrew Dykers' sporting clay range last week:

    Joe Lacy
    Rudy Butler
    Andrew Prior

    If you know these gentlemen, or are constituents, let them know how
    disappointed you are in their vote last week.

    27. Gun shows and events! VCDL PICNIC IN SEPTEMBER!

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League thanks the following
    member-activists who generously gave of their time to advance and
    help defend the rights of their fellow gun owners by working our
    recruiting and information booth at the C&E Gun Show in Chantilly,
    July 27-29:

    Ken Bullock, Jim Kiser, Ken Moore, David Green, David Park, TJ
    Parmele, Jay & Margot Alexander, Tim Fleming, Stephan Moyer, Brad
    Stevens, John Mealey, Max Padon, Andy Currie, Jerry Coffey, Paul
    Kent, Dexter Guptill, Danny Paulson, and Dave Spencer.

    We also thank the dedicated volunteers at the Old Dominion Gun Show
    in Dale City, August 4-5:

    Bill Price, Paul Henick, Jessie White, Robb Howell, Brian Davern, and
    TJ Parmele

    As an all volunteer organization, VCDL depends on YOU to volunteer
    your time at our area events, where we recruit new activists and keep
    gun owners informed. No experience necessary; if it's your first time
    we'll pair you with a veteran volunteer. To find out more about
    helping at our gun show tables, go to:


    and click on any of the blue links, or contact the coordinator for
    the show/event listed below with which you are interested in helping.

    Here are the upcoming events with which we need YOUR help:

    a. ROANOKE <http://www.showmasters.us>, August 18-19

    Saturday, August 18 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, August 19 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at <SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Roanoke.

    b. HARRISONBURG <http://www.showmasters.us>, August 25-26

    Saturday, August 25 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, August 26 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Bob Schmidt at <Shenandoahgunshows@vcdl.org> to help
    in Harrisonburg.

    c. NORFOLK (at the Norfolk Scope, <http://www.showmasters.us>), September 8-9

    Saturday, September 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org> to
    help at the Norfolk Scope.

    d. FREDERICKSBURG <http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html>,
    September 8-9

    Saturday, September 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 9 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Contact Robert Herron at <Fredericksburggunshows@vcdl.org> to help in

    e. HAMPTON <http://www.guns-knives.com>, September 15-16

    Saturday, September 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron Lilly at <HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Hampton.

    f. VCDL Legislative Victory Picnic, WYTHE COUNTY, September 15

    Come join us at our cookout to enjoy free food and beverages and help
    celebrate another victorious year in restoring rights of gun owners.

    The public is invited for fun and camaraderie, and to thank Delegate
    Bill Carrico for again successfully carrying one of VCDL's bills
    through to signing into law. The picnic will be held from 11:30 to
    1:30 at the New River Trail State Park picnic shelter at Foster Falls
    -- same site as last year.

    While the picnic is free, we would sure appreciate some volunteers to
    help set up, cook on the grills, and clean up at the end. If you can
    help, please contact Dennis O'Connor at <Picnics@vcdl.org>

    g. SALEM <http://www.cegunshows.com>, September 22-23

    Saturday, September 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at <SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Salem.

    h. NEWPORT NEWS, 5th Annual Military Vehicle & Militaria Collector
    Show, September 29-30. Mr. Robert House, President of the Hampton
    Roads Militaria Society, has donated a table to VCDL for this event.

    It will be held at the Virginia War Museum, 9285 Warwick Blvd (next
    to the James River Bridge). All we need is YOU to help us work our
    recruiting and information table. No experience necessary!

    Saturday, September 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, September 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org> to
    help in Newport News.

    i. Gun Rights Policy Conference, CINCINNATI, OH, October 5-7

    VCDL and OpenCarry.ORG are going to share a hospitality suite!

    Come meet national gun rights leaders and your fellow grassroots
    activists at the 2007 Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio. Sponsored by
    the Citizens Committee to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), the conference
    affords you the opportunity to make your voice heard and get a
    preview of future critical events impacting our rights.

    Past speakers have included Alan Gottlieb, Philip Van Cleave, Alan
    Korwin, Massad Ayoob, Tom Gresham, Wayne LaPierre, and John Lott.

    We hope to see you there as part of the VCDL contingent!

    j. DALE CITY <http://www.olddominionshows.com>, October 6-7

    Saturday, October 6 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 7 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    <NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Dale City.

    k. VIRGINIA BEACH <http://www.guns-knives.com>, October 13-14

    Saturday, October 13 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 14 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org> to
    help in Virginia Beach.

    l. RICHMOND <http://www.cegunshows.com>, October 20-21

    Saturday, October 20 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 21 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Contact Audrey Muehleisen at <CentralVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help at
    the Showplace in Mechanicsville.

    m. ROANOKE <http://www.showmasters.us>, October 27-28

    Saturday, October 27 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, October 28 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at <SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Roanoke.

    n. ROANOKE, November 3, 2007. 4th Annual VCDL Benefit Shoot. Contact
    Al Steed, Jr. at <SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help or participate.

    o. DALE CITY <http://www.olddominionshows.com>, November 3-4

    Saturday, November 3 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 4 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    <NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Dale City.

    p. CHANTILLY <http://www.cegunshows.com>, November 16-18

    Friday, November 16 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. Saturday, November 17 9:00
    a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, November 18 10:00 a.m.
    - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at
    <NOVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Chantilly.

    q. HAMPTON <http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html>, November 24-25

    Saturday, November 24 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, November 25 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron Lilly at <HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Hampton.

    r. RICHMOND <http://www.cegunshows.com>, December 1-2

    Saturday, December 1 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, December 2 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Contact Audrey Muehleisen at <CentralVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help at
    the Showplace in Mechanicsville.

    s. HARRISONBURG <http://www.showmasters.us>, December 8-9

    Saturday, December 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, December 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Bob Schmidt at <Shenandoahgunshows@vcdl.org> to help
    in Harrisonburg.

    t. SALEM <http://www.cegunshows..com>, December 15-16

    Saturday, December 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, December 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

    Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at <SWVAgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Salem.

    u. FREDERICKSBURG <http://www.guns-knives..com>, December 15-16

    Saturday, December 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, December 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Contact Robert Herron at <Fredericksburggunshows@vcdl.org> to help in

    v. VIRGINIA BEACH <http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html>,
    December 29-30

    Saturday, December 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, December 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org> to
    help in Virginia Beach.

    w. HAMPTON <http://www.guns-knives..com>, January 26-27, 2008

    Saturday, January 26 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, January 27 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron Lilly at <HamptonRoadsgunshows@vcdl.org> to help in Hampton.

    x. VIRGINIA BEACH <http://www.guns-knives.com>, March 22-23

    Saturday, March 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
    Sunday, March 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.

    Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <Norfolk-VBgunshows@vcdl.org> to
    help in Virginia Beach.

    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
    dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

    VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
  6. zoom6zoom

    zoom6zoom Senior Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    Spreading this information is definitely a good idea.
    As a reminder, you don't have to be a VCDL member to subscribe to the FREE alert emails, and you don't have to worry about them sharing your email address with anyone.
  7. skidmark

    skidmark Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    I agree with zoom6zoom about spreading the word.

    That said (TM) I'd like to add that sometimes editing or selective cut&paste can be more friendly. Add a link back to www.vcdl.org with a suggestion for folks to read the rest of the ALERT - maybe with a teaser about what else is there.

    I am a member of VCDL. Anyone with $25 can become a member - Virginia residency is not required. You can join on-line at www.vcdl.org. In case you did not know, VCDL is a qualifying organization with CMP.

    stay safe.

  8. tinygnat219

    tinygnat219 Senior Member

    Nov 3, 2006
    The Land of Northern Hospitality and Southern Effi
    I don't see any problems with posting information from their weekly alerts. In my opinion, if we can spread stuff to fellow gun owners, we are that much stronger.
  9. Spot77

    Spot77 Senior Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    I wish my emails from the NRA were as informative and interesting.
  10. JamisJockey

    JamisJockey member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Northern VA
    The alerts are a little long, I'd suggest only posting items that require action. I don't think that someone in Texas is going to care that there was a home invasion in Chantilly, VA.
  11. W.E.G.

    W.E.G. Mentor

    Sep 26, 2006
    all over Virginia
    Do note that there is an index at the beginning of the long ones.

    That way you can go straight to the stuff that is most interesting to you.
  12. JamisJockey

    JamisJockey member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Northern VA
    Which is great in an email, but due to bandwidth restrictions on the site it required the original poster to post 5 posts. Way too much crap to wade through on a site like this. Fast food religion for me, please. Cut out the excerpts that require action and post them here, along with suggestions on how to follow through with said action.

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