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Questions about Leather Holsters?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Holsters and Accessories' started by NewGuy1911, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. NewGuy1911

    NewGuy1911 Well-Known Member

    Have never used a holster and would like to know how these two compare, pro's & con's of each?

    Nighthawk Custom (Companion?) for a 1911 Commander

    Bianchi Askins Avenger #4L, not sure of the 1911 size.

    Will one of the above be better adapted to IDPA-type action games?

    Will one of the above conceal better, hold the grip in tight to the body. The body shield is a nice feature on the Nighthawk?

    And, even though these are not designed to be cross draw holsters would one of these do it better?

    Many Thanks
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2013
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    First, you probably will not be allowed to use a cross-draw holster in IDPA events.

    It is impossible to draw the gun without sweeping your left arm, and every other person on your left with a fully loaded combat pistol!

    The Askins Avenger design is a good one, that has been in use for over 60 years.
    It hasn't went out of style, for good reason.

    The Nighthawk appears to be a pancake style on designer jeans steroids.
    But I have never seen one in real life, and can offer no openion on how well it tucks the gun in.

    IDPA says this about approved holsters:
    My best advice would be to attend a few IDPA matches and see what the top guns are using.

    Last edited: Jan 12, 2013
  3. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    The Nighthawk QR is indeed a pancake holster. The purpose of the design is to distribute the weight of the gun over a wider area of the belt.

    The Bianchi Askins Avenger is a copy of a classic Bruce Nelson design...the Nighthawk version is called the Centurion...and is almost the definitive OWB holster.

    Most of the preferred holsters used by the faster shooters in IDPA are polymer versions of the Bruce Nelson style holster.

    For CCW, I prefer the Nelson style also as the belt loop behind the slide holds the gun close to the body, while the rear slot pulls the gun butt in.

    The Pancake style holds to gun closer to larger body types, depending on where it is worn on the beltline
  4. NewGuy1911

    NewGuy1911 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the responses. I'm still learning my way around. No plans to compete in IDPA matches, will take the intro class though.

    I do not conceal carry but like the idea of the IDPA and would like a holster for a 1911 45 acp that someday I can use for what ever.

    Happy Holidays
  5. shinyroks

    shinyroks Well-Known Member

    I don't know IDPA, but I have used some inexpensive holsters for daily carry, my Tagua holster comes to mind for my CZ. I also carried in a Yaqui-style holster for my 1911s, fit all muzzle lengths and are very discreet when the gun is removed.
  6. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

  7. NewGuy1911

    NewGuy1911 Well-Known Member

  8. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

  9. NewGuy1911

    NewGuy1911 Well-Known Member

    The Wilson seems more detailed and maybe priced less.
  10. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    I thought I read somewhere that Wilson's holsters were made by Kirkpatrick Leather
  11. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

    That could be, but their designs don't look similar.
  12. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

    Their Tactical Assault, Practical, and Adjuster look like one maker. It seems as if I remember somebody mentioning they were from a maker in Florida that used to do IDPA holsters, but I can't remember the name.

    The Rapid Response and Summer Companion sure look like Rafter S products, but it seems as if I've seen Wilson deny that elsewhere.
  13. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    Try this link for their Wilson Custom holsters
  14. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    Rafter S used to make their leather holsters, but there was a falling out when the company split.

    Their Kydex holsters used to be made by a Bill Roger's company Prezine and Safariland
  15. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

    Interesting, I hadn't seen that before.

    However, none of those holsters resemble the products on the Wilson site.


    That is what I was thinking of.

    No doubt a good move, as there are very few makers that have as many dissatisfied holster/belt buyers than Rafter S has had over the past three years.
  16. Skylerbone

    Skylerbone Well-Known Member

    I know WC uses 5-Shot and Andrews (both well respected makers) for some of their limited holsters, not sure on the standard models. I do have a Wilson styled after the BN SS for IWB use and it is a well designed holster, comfortable enough for all day carry.

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