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Read this horrible MSNBC article

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by somerandomguy, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. somerandomguy

    somerandomguy member

  2. Acelaw

    Acelaw Active Member

    the article does mention that the vast majority of these killings didn't involve assault weapons and that high capacity mags weren't really a factor.
  3. somerandomguy

    somerandomguy member

    Whereabouts? Must've been hidden as I didn't see it. If it does it still doesn't excuse the fact that they were making it out to be a worse problem than it really is by including suicides and accidents in there.
  4. browneu

    browneu Well-Known Member

    Really, no dot over NYC, Chicago, or Las Angeles but one over Columbus Ohio?

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  5. somerandomguy

    somerandomguy member

    Well it's only over 1 weekend AKA 2-3 days depending on the start date. Maybe there were no murders in those cities over that weekend. I'm just as shocked as you are, don't worry. Maybe the recent rise in murders is all the gangbanging little punk thugs making up for it? Or MSNBC is trying to hide the murders that did happen so they can go "See? Gun control works!"
  6. Grassman

    Grassman Well-Known Member

    State controlled media pukes!
  7. NHCraigT

    NHCraigT Well-Known Member

    Long article, and a lot of different writers involved = far from being unbiased. Totally part of the agenda.
  8. browneu

    browneu Well-Known Member

    I agree, something doesn't ad up. Especially, the number Chicago produces.

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  9. wgp

    wgp Well-Known Member

    Note that most references in the article are to people killed "by" handguns. I always thought it was "by" people. Also, no apparent effort to note the number of people in the same period killed in cars, or by drunk drivers, or accidental falls, or drownings, or were killed with other forms of weapons. No effort to determine how many people enjoyed hunting or other forms of recreational shooting during the same period without death or injury (my guess it was at least hundreds of thousands). No reference to how many people prevented or stopped an assault or other crime by displaying a gun without having to fire it. No reference to how many people legally carried a concealed (or open carried) gun without incident or accident.

    My undergrad major was journalism, and I doubt any editor I ever worked with would have allowed that story to be printed with such gaping holes in it, unless there was deliberate effort at a biased story.
  10. happygeek

    happygeek Well-Known Member

    The article states they got their #s purely from media sources. So a young blonde woman being killed by her boyfriend in OR makes the news, whereas a bunch of gangland homicides in Chicago don't, and hence aren't in MSNBC's story.
  11. mokin

    mokin Well-Known Member

    This is what we're up against. The media wants as much knee jerk mileage as they can get per story. The antis don't have the infrastructure we do to communicate what bills are being proposed or heard on the scale we do. They just have MSNBC, Huffuington Post, Slate, etc. to do thier dirty work. That being said, gun control isn't as huge of an issue for as many liberals/progressives as it is for us. They are much more interested in women's rights, immigration, health care, poverty, etc. If we stay focused and keep the pressure on our representatives, we still have a chance.
  12. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    MSNBC =
    M ore (of the)
    S ame...
    N othing
    B ut
    C ommunists
  13. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Hell, I'm going against the grain here - but I *LIKE* that article.

    It's probably the most compelling article ever put together for why we need Concealed Carry!

  14. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    The NAS 2004 "Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review" NAP 2005 noted in the section on gun buybacks that in year 2003, handgun homicide involved 1 out of 10,000 handguns. So on a typical weekend, handgun homicide would represent much less than 1 out of 1,000,000 handguns. (The handgun homicide numbers and rates have gone down since 2003.)

    Why won't they show what the owners of the tens of millions of handguns not used in gun violence did with their guns that weekend?
  15. TenDriver

    TenDriver Well-Known Member

    I love how under the self defense category they label the bullet receiver the victim. Sorry, but in a self defense shooting the victim is the shooter.
  16. llll1lll1

    llll1lll1 New Member

    Noliberty's response was epic
  17. MedWheeler

    MedWheeler Well-Known Member

    I read it, too. I find it difficult to believe Chicago wasn't omitted on purpose; there is no way they could not have found mention of at least one of the several shootings that took place there that weekend. The article certainly had an agenda, and would not have been produced if not for the current political situation.
    That being said, some of the cases were indeed tragic. In fact, probably all of them were tragic to at least someone.
  18. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    I would think that in every case where someone dies unexpectedly, that is true.

    December 29 2010 I got a call from my grandfather that my uncle had a bad accident, family was being called in to the hospital. I had a 22 minute drive, jumped in my wife's truck and went.

    Three blocks from the hospital I got another call from my grandfather saying my uncle had passed away. I could hear my aunt screaming in the background.

    I didn't even SEE the car that I turned in front of when pulling in to the ER parking lot. Did a lot of damage to my wife's SUV.

    I asked the police officer that responded to give me more information about what happened to my uncle, he said "I'll get you out of here so you can be with your family as soon as possible."

    I get released from the accident scene and walk in to the ER. Ask the front counter where my family was, they pointed me over to a private conference room door.

    I walked in, and see my aunt, grandfather, and other family members sitting in the room crying. My aunt is covered in blood up to her elbows.

    Turns out, my uncle had shot himself accidentally.

    So, yes, these things are horribly traumatic to the family.

    Eventually, life goes on.
  19. Akita1

    Akita1 Well-Known Member

    +1 Trent. Did you read the comments? Apparently a lot of RKBA folks read MSNBC too!
  20. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Even though their articles have an anti-gun slant, I follow both CNN and MSNBC news feeds.

    Speaking of my dearly departed Uncle, one of his favorite sayings was from an old song, "the hypnotized never lie."

    I consider both news feeds a primary intelligence source for RKBA enemy activity. :)

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