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Recommend a good gun safe?

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by CJW, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. CJW

    CJW Active Member

    Hi folks. I've been researching safes and thought I'd ask for some recommendations. I'm looking for a capacity of 8-10 rifles and about that many handguns, and I'd also like it to be fireproof enough to store important papers, cash, etc. I hope to keep the price about 1K. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
  2. thefish

    thefish Well-Known Member

    I can't speak to safes but my important papers and large cash are in a safe deposit Box. Way more fire safe than anything I could install at home.
  3. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Well-Known Member

    You're not going to be able to depend on a gun safe to store your documents. Put your documents in a document container, then place that inside a gun safe.
  4. LevelHead

    LevelHead Well-Known Member

    Agreed re: documents. $1000 isn't a lot for a good safe, especially one for 8-10 rifles.

    I like Heritage safes, but they can be pricey. IMO, you get what you pay for with safes.
  5. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Read through the posts on safes here in Accessories and you'll find that $1,000 probably won't be enough for what you're looking for.

    VINTAGE-SLOTCARS Well-Known Member

    Check with local gun shops, they often have a trade in for larger ones.
  7. Ehtereon11B

    Ehtereon11B internet infantryman

    Go into purchasing a gun safe with the thought in mind that a heavy, bolted down safe can still be broken into/moved if enough time is allowed. Most firearm safes are better protection against a house fire rather than a serious burglary attempt.

    Knowing that check with local firearm stores. I bought a Winchester Silverado 24 longgun safe from Tractor Supply with 6 handgun door panel for $500. Which was a much better price for any safe I could find online minus cheap Stack on cases.
  8. TexasGlock23

    TexasGlock23 Member

    there should be a sticky posted imo
  9. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Well-Known Member

    Most firearm safes are better protection against a generic burglary rather than a serious house fire.
  10. a1abdj

    a1abdj Well-Known Member

    This is (was) a Browning. What say you? Thumbs up or down?

  11. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member

    Beats me? I would have to see the contents. :)

    We do have a forum member that posted pictures of his gun collection from a safe or actually HSC (Home Security Container) following a hot fire. It wasn't pretty.

    As to size? Plan on double what you initially figure on. Things eventually get tight in there.

    When I invested in my HSC I did some homework and was fortunate in that the Cleveland, Ohio area has Cleveland Safe which includes a large showroom dedicated to many safes. I must have looked at a hundred gun safes. I finally settled on a large AmSec which I am happy with. It wasn't quite inexpensive but I cut a good deal delivered and installed. It is lagged to the concrete deck. It was nice to be able to crawl over so many safes to make a decision.

    As to fire? This spring will bring the continuation of complete house renovations. I have been looking at adding a sprinkler system to the gun room area since the entire area will be reworked. Not fancy but a good basic system. I figure for the few bucks invested it sure can't hurt.

    Overall these forums are loaded with threads about gun safes or better put HSC systems. Try a forum search for more ideas and information.

  12. CB900F

    CB900F Well-Known Member


    The proper term is RSC, Residential Security Container, not HSC. I don't really want to be a nit-picker, but these threads get complicated enough without introducing multiple terms for the same thing.

  13. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member

    Thanks and I fixed my post. I was thinking what I posted just didn't look right.

    Thanks for the correction...
  14. 2nd 41

    2nd 41 Well-Known Member

    Save up and buy it right the first time. I was looking for a $700-$1000 safe but ended up with a Fort Knox after I did my homework. Not saying to buy a FK ...just suggesting you buy quality safe to fit your needs.
  15. HighExpert

    HighExpert Well-Known Member

    I have a Ft. Knox and it is a good safe. I also have a Cannon and for the price difference, I would buy two Cannons next time. Fire rating is the same and I feel the security is adequate on the Cannon. The Ft. Knox was $1800 with custom color about 15years ago. The Cannon, in black, was $1000. It holds 10 rifles, 25 handguns and miscellaneous stuff. It weighs about 250# less than the Ft. Knox, but floor bolts offset that.
  16. cbpagent72

    cbpagent72 Well-Known Member

    I like Superior or Summit, both made by Champion.

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  17. jmr

    jmr Member

  18. HighExpert

    HighExpert Well-Known Member

    Go to Tractor Supply. They have a large Cannon which wil fill the bill and give you room to expand for $999..00
  19. Teachu2

    Teachu2 Well-Known Member

    In the under-$1000 new safes, it's very difficult to find one with decent fire rating. Many are 30 minutes to reach 350 degrees in a 1200 degree fire, and some of those start the timer when they start the furnace. Unless you have sprinklers or a rapid response time from the fire dept (AND they're not on another call) it simply isn't enough. One way around that is to buy a small fire safe/lockbox and put it inside the gun safe for cash, jewelry, and papers. If your guns are replaceable, insurance coverage on them (if you have it!) will do the rest.

    I started with a rebranded Cannon. It was all I could justify when I bought it. As my collection grew and my wife wanted to start locking paperwork away, I added a couple of Bighorns from Costco. Then she inherited some jewelry, and it's sentimental value far exceeds the market value. I asked her if she'd be happy with an insurance settlement if it were stolen, or a pubble of gold and silver if we had a fire....and suddenly she was fine with the cost of a better safe.

    Better protection is heavier, bulkier, and more expensive. At under $1000, there isn't much difference among brands. You need to consider the value of the proposed contents, and the risk factors you wish to mitigate. If you are protecting three Glocks and a Mossy 500 from typical residental smash-and-grab thieves, it's hard to justify spending thousands. OTOH, if you have several thousands of dollars invested in guns, jewelry, or cash, have family heirlooms, or want better fire protection, you strike a different balance. Like most things in life, one make/model/size doesn't work for everyone.

    I wanted to replace two 19 cu.ft. Costco specials with something with at least 90 minutes of fire protection, and walls thick enough to stand up to a fireaxe. I also wanted 6' tall, for added space and convenience. I also knew that I wouldn't be sliding a handtruck under this one and setting it in place all by myself, so I preferred a local dealer.

    The range where I am a member displays Liberty safes for the local dealer, and highly recommends them for excellent service. I'd shopped there before, and not had a real good feeling about them, but I gave them a try. I was pleased with the salesperson/owner, and probably got a better feeling because I'd done enough research to be a bit more comfortable and ask better questions.

    They also carry a few Fort Knox safes, some Brahma imports, and some Summit safes. I found the Summit Denali the most appealing, and (after a couple trips down there and more research online) was debating 50 vs 60 cu.ft. The wife had specified a textured finish (that was a surprise) and the dealer was down to one of each size in textured gray. As I tried to reach a decision, another buyer snagged the 50, which made the decision easier!

    The Denali 60 was delivered the following Saturday. It's 50x27x72", plus the lock and handle, and 1700 lbs empty. 2 hr at 1500 degrees fire protection. S&G mechanical lock, interior lights with internal motion sensor. They unloaded it with a liftgate, and moved it with a pair of pallet jacks. They did no damage whatsoever to my house, floors, or the safe - it waqs well worth the delivery charge. They shimmed the front, drilled the floor and bolted it down.

    I figure the safe set me back about 15% of the value of the contents. To me, it made sense.
  20. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Well-Known Member

    I have a FireKing Media Vault to hold money and papers. It can then be put in a larger gun safe. The media cooler has a 1 hour rating by itself.

    Once you decide exactly what you need for your guns, then buy the one that is twice that size.

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