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Remington 58 Upgrade

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Low Key, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    I sent my Pietta made 1858 Remington replica to Jule for some upgrades. The revolver originally was a blued gun with a 5.5 inch barrel and the standard fixed sights, but I stripped the blue off and polished the metal to a nice shine and I wanted to add a stainless cylinder which was bored deeper to accept a larger powder charge. I sent the gun off to Jule last month and waited for it's return. I recieved my revolver back in the mail on Friday and I got the chance to shoot it on Saturday.

    The barrel work, hammer, and sights look excellent. Jule fixed me up with a stainless steel cylinder with chambers bored deeper and which will accept about 48gr of pyrodex p when filled to the chamber mouths. He matched the chamber (both the original and stainless cylinders) and bore diameters at .452 inch, re-throated the barrel and re-crowned the muzzle.

    He also took the standard v-notch rear sight and turned it into a nice wide square notch which allows me to more quickly aquire the front sight, (which he also modified for me by taking the typical rounded pietta front post and cutting it back at a 45 degree angle and serrated the back edge).

    The side of the hammer has been smoothed to remove some tool marks left over from manufacture, and some burrs removed from the internals. The gun cocks and functions perfectly smooth now.

    The weapon shoots a bit low, (about 1.5in below POA) but thats good, it was shooting low before I sent it in and I was in the process of slowly filing the front sight to bring the point of impact up to my point of aim. Windage is good "as is" so I will not need to make any changes there, and shooting offhand at 20 yards I achieved 2 and 3 inch groups.

    The gun functions perfectly with the full 45 grain charge of pyrodex p and grouped about 3 in at 20 yards off hand, ( no benchrest), and I think it is capable of 1 inch groups from a benchrest...will test this soon and post results.

    I fired 24 shots in all on saturday... Remington #10 caps, dry fiber wad, and my own homemade "lube pills", .457 round ball, first with 45 grains of pyrodex p (12 shots) then 40 grains (6 shots), then 35 grains (6 shots). Group size was approximately the same for all loads. Recoil is about the same or a little more than my 4in barrel 45 auto and the round ball smacks the target with a good solid "thwack!!"

    Overall...excellent work! I'm glad I sent it in to have it improved and Jule gave me more than I expected, and he will be seeing more business from me in the future as funds allow. Pictures of the end results on the gun will follow shortly...probably this weekend, it's the only time I'll have to fool with the camera.
  2. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    Tha BOSS says THANKS!!!!! Appreciates tha feedback always says ta give tha customer more than they're expectin!
  3. hillbilly

    hillbilly Well-Known Member

    I've got an 1858 clone.

    How much did all those upgrades cost?

  4. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    I bet you are getting some hellacious velocities from those loads.
  5. Wwalstrom

    Wwalstrom Well-Known Member

    More Info!!!!

    How much did it cost?!?!?!

    Can't wait for the pictures?!?!?!
  6. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    Was under 75 bucks includin tha replacement cylinder.
  7. Manyirons

    Manyirons member


    Yup, theys loads better fer velocity, but ya aint seen tha LONG cylinder conversion yet, it gives ya over 65 grains so ya got Walker++ on a Remmie frame!
  8. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    :D Yes, price was under $75. Pictures coming as soon as I can so you all can see the quality of work. I don't have a chrono so I don't know the velocities but I can tell you that 45gr of pyrodex p makes a nice BIG boom, good kick, and the ball smacks the target really hard!!:D
  9. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    Pictures! Enjoy!





  10. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    A few more...

    45gr pyrodex p, fiber wad, .457 ball

    smooth hammer side...



  11. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    Ooooo! Oooooo!!!!!!!!

    Great pictures and great gun!
  12. hillbilly

    hillbilly Well-Known Member

    Okay, Manyirons, tell us about this "long cylinder" conversion that makes it possible to put Walker loads in an 1858.

    Got one of them that will fit an Uberti 1858????????

    I like my original case-colored frame, but the cylinder could be blued.

    How much for the "long cylinder" conversion?

  13. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    Tha LONG cylinders a place fer those wantin more power but not havin er wantin tha full house .50 cal conversion.

    Frames modified an a new cylinders thats a bit over 1/2 inch longers made and bushin an all that. I THINKS its aroun 375.00 fer it, i'd haveta ask tha BOSS.

    Aint jus borin out tha chambers, fer 65 grains ya gotta have more cylinder.
  14. hillbilly

    hillbilly Well-Known Member

    Thanks, ManyIrons.

    For $375, I think I'd just get a Walker reproduction to go along with the 1858.

    Now then, this .50 cal conversion does sound interesting. Got a web site?

  15. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    That's what I said when I opened the box when it came back from Bigiron!! It was like Christmas in July! :D

    I'll be posting some target tests sometime within the next week or so...benchrest, 25 yrds, from max loads down to 35gr...:) I've got to make some range time when it's not 95 degrees outside.
  16. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    This is the main website, you can get direct contact info there. Jule is a great guy and very knowledgeable. A phone call to him will net you all the info you need.

  17. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    Yup, ya CAN getta walker BUT ya also gots open frame and yer carryin five pounds a iron.

    Ideas ta outwalker a walker an have somethin more accurate AN ya can carry all day. I knows! Better sight, faster hammer throw an all that jazz.

    Now ifin ya WANTS a Walkie or a Dragoon size gun ya gets tha .58 caliber solid frame job tha BOSS does. 440 grains a solid er hollow pointed smasher at 1200 feet per sec. Thas 1400 pounds a energy! Or like carryin a five shot slug gun on yer hip.
  18. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    LOW KEY!

    BOSS says hang on a bit an he'll send ya a selection of the new BIGIRON wads. even tha 1/8 inch has 14 TIMES tha lube those LIMP an SOFT wads gots. Theys in 1/8 and 3/16 thick and REAL STIFF. Gots lubed veggie fiber wads HE'LL send too.

    Theys SO much betterin them BLUNDER WADS, an we's havin some fun over tha diff. Might even do an ad! GET BIGIRON OR BE LIMP! :)
  19. Low Key

    Low Key Well-Known Member

    Maybe do a T-shirt logo:

    I got BIGIRON
    to customize my BP revolver

  20. Manyirons

    Manyirons member

    LOL!!! :)


    Yup! we're havin WAAAAAY too much fun with this one! Good ta hava laugh, tha BOSS has been workin hisself ta death, i dont get ta do so much cause i aint tha talent but i's got 70 hours ta his 100.

    Thanks fer tha T-shirt idea! I might get some ordered up fer tha forum members.

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