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remington ammo = junk

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by tango3065, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. tango3065

    tango3065 Well-Known Member

    I lost a nice deer due to cheep ass corelokts today, pulled the trigger and gun went snap. Just as I was about to wrap my new ruger around a tree I decided to look at the cartridge, good thing I didnt hit that tree. The primer on the cartridge was setting way to far in. The primer was just barely struck by the firing pin. Guys I have been a Remington fan for years but never again will I buy their cheap shells for anything serious like hunting.
  2. Mulliga

    Mulliga Well-Known Member

    That sucks...

    ...but this can happen with any ammo. I've shot several boxes of the Core-Lokts and they seemed fine. Perhaps a particular lot was bad?
  3. tango3065

    tango3065 Well-Known Member

    Yes could happen to any brand but I lost a nice buck. My faith in remington is forever gone.
  4. g56

    g56 Well-Known Member

    That's about the best reason to get into handloading that I can think of! :)
  5. dakotasin

    dakotasin Well-Known Member

    for the life of me, i can't understand why anybody who is serious about deer hunting uses factory ammo...

    to ensure quality ammo, roll your own...
  6. swingset

    swingset Well-Known Member

    So, let me understand this....you only looked at your ammo after a malfunction, in the field, spoiling a hunt, correct?

    I suppose there's a good reason you don't inspect the cartridge you hope to take your game with, but damn if I can come up with one. It's probably best to blame the ammo, tho.
  7. chevrofreak

    chevrofreak Well-Known Member

    At a range day a local gun store used to put on, they were sighting in a Savage 10FP LE something or other with remington ammo and one of the rounds actually imprinted its headstamp onto the bolt face. The Remington rep happened to be standing right there when it happened.

    Lets just say, that rifle now belongs to Remington. (I got to put 20 rounds through it first :p)
  8. BigG

    BigG Well-Known Member

    Of the few misfires I have had, I've seen more R-P bad than any other brand. QC is poor, imho.
  9. MrMurphy

    MrMurphy Well-Known Member

    Guess it never occured to you to inspect your ammo prior to loading?

    2,000 .45 ACP Remington UMC FMJs later, I've had no problems in my Glock.
    However, the hard primers on Winchester White Box don't agree with my Glock.

    My .30-30 liked Core-Lokts just fine.
  10. Pumpkinheaver

    Pumpkinheaver Well-Known Member

    I had a similar thing happen to me. I tried to shoot one of the biggest deer I have ever seen and was foiled by a dud round of remington ammo. I havn't bought any of their ammo in years and probably never will. I use mostly handloaded ammo these days, but if I need a box of factory stuff it's usually winchester of federal premium ammo.
  11. jimmyp50

    jimmyp50 Member

    I have killed a number of deer with Remington 150 grain PSP, 180 grain soft points in a Remington Mdl 7 .308 when younger. I never had a problem with them going off. I did shoot a small doe at 140 yds if I remember correctly, the 180 round softpoint did not work well on the small doe. Now older and more educated I use 165 grain and 130 grain WW powerpoints in my 30-06 and 270. If I was going to Texas on an expensive hunt I guess I would buy some expensive ammunition. I also want to get into reloading right after I grow an extra set of hands and add 8 more hours to the day. Right now its just the wife, kids, work, hunt when possible. jimmyp
  12. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    I use Rem 150gr 7x57 almost exclusively for my Chilean Mauser - the Mauser likes it best (sub-MOA groupings), and it's never let me down. I've shot hundreds and hundreds of this round thru this Mauser with no issues whatsoever. In fact, last Saturday AM this combo took a nice fallow doe that was dropped where she stood, DRT.

    This is clearly a case of YMMV. But I'd not be one to advise throwing the baby out with the bathwater because Remington's QC wasn't PERFECT (nobody's is) and because you failed to perform a pre-hunt equipment check.
  13. Black Snowman

    Black Snowman Well-Known Member

    It would be nice if the round had been inspected before. The priming equipment they used may seat to a depth not to a pressure (indicating full seating) which would have resulted in no differance in appearance in the ammo but would have absorbed almost all of the impact of the firing pin as the primer sat deeper.

    The most likely cause is that a large pistol primer got mixed in with the large rifle primers. They are slightly shorter and would have resulted in the condition described. It's still possible that the ammo appeared fine. A deep primer is something I would notice just openning the box and looking at the rounds still in the packaging so I'm guess it wasn't seated deep but the wrong size primer.

    For those who don't reload, large rifle primers and large pistol primers are the same diameter but the rifle primers are slightly longer.

    I've had good experiance with Remington bullets, but poor experiance with their brass and loaded ammunition. I haven't used their primers.
  14. rick_reno

    rick_reno member

    I'm curious what "way to far in" is? Do you have a mic you can measure the depth with? To eliminate the rifle (you said it was a Ruger) do you have access to another rifle you can try this round in? Do other rounds in that box also have their primers seated deep?
  15. litman252

    litman252 Well-Known Member

    One stupid little thing that always bugged me about Rem ammo was that there cases always look like crap when compared to any other brand.
    If they don't care about the outside, do they care about the inside???
  16. g_gunter

    g_gunter Well-Known Member

    Remington Core-Lokt eratic...

    My experience with Remington Core-Lokt ammo for my 30-30 is that it is not always consistent. The latest example today was firing my 30-30 at 50 yds. making sure my scope was ready for deer season and had 3 flyers out of 17 at about 3 inches above and to the left of where the rest were impacting (they weren't grouped - true flyers). The rest grouped fine. In my opinion, that's pretty bad at 50 yards using a scope since it will only be more exaggerated at 100-150 yds.

    On the other hand, I've never had a problem with Winchester. Go figure?

  17. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    Each rifle will have a preferred diet. For example, my 7x57 loves the Remington factory stuff and tolerates the S&B fodder, but hates the PMC and Winchester stuff. So long as they all go BOOM, I figure that one of my responsibilities is to find out what my rifle likes and doesn't like. It sounds as if you're doing just that.

    But I certainly don't consider PMC to be crap because my 7x57 doesn't like it. Especially because my 303 prefers the PMC stuff over the Rem and Win and PMP loads. :)
  18. lycanthrope

    lycanthrope Well-Known Member

    Even if you handload you need to check your primer depth. Equipment and ammo failures happen. Check and doublecheck.
  19. nipprdog

    nipprdog Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Nov 17, 2004
  20. RaySendero

    RaySendero Well-Known Member


    Sorry to hear about your lost deer. I see a lot of Remington CoreLokt ammo at the range this time of year - New rifles, last minute sight-ins, cheap pratice, etc. I've never seen anyone have a misfire so I don't believe they are that common. Also know 2 gunsmiths in the area that prefer to use CoreLokts when someone brings in an "accuracy problem". I myself have used them some time ago with a 30/06 - many deer and no misfires.

    Don't use them any more as I prefer to reload. But I do reload the bulk priced CoreLokt bullets for low cost practice and they are very accurate. From my 270, they will print close to match bullets out to around 250 yards! They are a great close-in (or youth) deer round with the 130s loaded down to about 2700fps.

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