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Remington Model 12 Sportsman

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by PALongbow, Nov 22, 2003.

  1. PALongbow

    PALongbow Well-Known Member

    My brother called today and told me that he had a Remington Model 12 Sportsman pump action shotgun for sale. It shoots both 2 3/4 and 3" shells. He said that it kind of looks like the Remington Express. The shotgun has a 28" barrel. tried to do several searches with no finds. Did Remington ever make this model shotgun????

  2. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister Moderator In Memoriam


    If my memory serves, Winchester made a model 12 Shotgun, Remington Made a Model 12 .22 Cal pump rifle.

    Remington Made a Shotgun with the name Sportsman, however, As I recall that was the Model 870 Pump action shotgun.

  3. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister Moderator In Memoriam

    Win Model 12

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  4. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    I have one.

    This is the budget model made PRIOR to the express model. Magnum receivers will take 3 inch shells, and are marked "Magnum" on the left side. No dimples in the magazine tube.

    Good all around shotgun. It's still an 870.. just uses cast trigger housing instead of machined aluminum.

    Been hunting with mine since I was 19 or so.
  5. PALongbow

    PALongbow Well-Known Member

    DR Rob,

    It seems not too many people are familar with this particular shotgun. I understand it was made to sell a little cheaper than the special purpose and Wingmaster 870's. I think the model 12 might have evolved into what we now know as the 870 Express.

  6. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    Made from 1984 to 1986 according to the Blue Book. Hardwood stock with a recoil pad, 28" or 30" bbl., some with Rem chokes.

    They also made an Auto 12 Sportsman for 2 or 3 years around 1985. It was a Model 1100 with a hardwood stock. A friend of mine has one and it's been a good gun.

  7. woody53

    woody53 New Member

    Yes it exists. I have one myself Like new. Right after receiving it I had an unrelated accident and can no long use it. It had been shot maybe 12 times at spot shoots in the mid 90s and has been in storage every since. A beautiful shotgun
  8. Eat Beef

    Eat Beef Well-Known Member

    I picked one up at a GS two weeks ago for 150 frns.

    The plan is to turn it into a shorter, higher capacity HD gun. (NOT tacticool:barf: :neener: ) The old standby 30 incher filling the HD role at the moment might be a little much.;)
  9. prezzz

    prezzz Well-Known Member

    I did that very same thing with mine. Got it at a gunshow for $140 and turned it into a home defense weapon. A great gun for that role.

  10. byf43

    byf43 Well-Known Member

    JohnBT wrote:

    I too had one. Bought it new at 'Best Products' in New Carrolton, MD, in 1985.

    A friend got a case of the 'got to have that' disease and wanted mine. It had a 28" barrel and came with a Modified RemChoke installed.
    He offered me more than I paid for it, and yes, he now owns it! He wouldn't listen that he could get it new for $184.00! He HAD to have mine.
  11. WNTFW

    WNTFW Well-Known Member

    First off, do not think I'm denying they exist. Obviously you have them to prove that.

    Link to page I find useful.

    The fact Remington does not document them in their history illustrates they are not well known.
  12. kirbythegunsmith

    kirbythegunsmith Well-Known Member

    more info.

    Remington made early versions called "Sportsman" that were 3 shot versions of classic automatics, like the Model 11 and 48 (11/48). After all, no "sportsman" needs over 3 shells to hunt, anyway, right?
    The model 58 was nothing but 3 shot, like the 878, so Sportsman 58 is not a different capacity version, but an altered version, like the later 870/1100's.
    The gas system of the 58 and 878 were very similar to the method used in the Winchester 1400, and that was also only a 3 shot capacity. That is why I nicknamed those guns the "Remington 1400's".
    I do not think that Winchester made any guns marked as "Sportsman", and I would think that Remington had trademark registration of the term.

  13. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    the sportsman pump guns weren't dimpled.
  14. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    Don't know about the autos, but the sportsman pump guns weren't dimpled. Blued steel, came with a 26 inch vent rib bbl with Rem-choke.

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  15. OniLink2k2

    OniLink2k2 New Member

    Hey, everyone. I know I'm bringing up this old topic, but I had a question about these Sportsman 12's.

    How similar are they to the current Model 1100's?
    The reason I'm asking is because I have the oppurtunity to purchase a Sportsman 12 Ga. and add an extended magazine on it. Can I do this with the Model 1100 magazine extensions???
  16. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    I recently bought a Sportsman Auto 12 (1100) and the answer is yes. The help and support link on the Remington website addresses this very question. I purchased mine from a dealer who had gotten it from an estate sale and it was like new. Remington says that all parts and accessories for the 1100 will fit it without issue. I purchased a 3inch chambered steel shot barrel for it on line and it worked fine. I now own a 3" mag capable (1100/ Auto 12) in like new condition for just over $500 and preliminary tests on the pattern board with various loads indicate that this ones going to be a keeper.

    The Sportsman Auto 12 is not dimpled.
  17. Virginian

    Virginian Well-Known Member

    The 1980s Sportsman shotguns were Remington's first round of lower cost guns. They did this primarily with cheaper wood and wood finish. The ones I have seen had metal finishes far superior to what is seen on current Expresses, and I have seen a couple with bluing as good as any 1100 or 870. I got a first year Express, and it was not as nice as the Sportsman I had intended to get before I found they had been discontinued. They are usually priced like Expresses. In my opinion they are among the best "deals" out there, if you can find one in good shape.
  18. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    I agree, the one I found is truly like new and has the better blue finish. It came with a 28 inch fixed mod barrel. I found a 26 " steel shot barrel on the internet for $206 and added that to it.

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  19. OniLink2k2

    OniLink2k2 New Member

    Awesome, guys. I appreciate the answers.
    It looks like I will be making the purchase.

    One more question:
    I've been looking online and it seems that the accessability of 18.5" barrels (similar to the ones on the 1100 Tacticals) are not available to purchase separate/alone for the 1100. I can find plenty that are for the 870...
    Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right places, but can anyone verify this? Or tell me where to find one?
  20. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    I think the shortest 1100 barrels Remington offers are 21 or 22 inches long. Because it is gas operated, It requires a bit longer barrel to reliably cycle the action. As I understand it shorter barrels can be made to work by experimenting with the opening of the gas ports by drilling them oversize, But I am no kind of an authority on this, I've heard of it being done.

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