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Renewed CHL background check failed!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ROCK6, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. ROCK6

    ROCK6 Well-Known Member

    Alright, I’m just venting.

    I’m active duty Army, over 20+years of service with a TS/SCI clearance. I’ve had CHL’s for WA, TX, FL and GA (twice).

    I just submitted my renewal paper work for FL and was just informed of an arrest or criminal charge in WA State which needed to be addressed before continuing…***? My GA carry permit is still valid and I haven’t had an issue purchasing multiple firearms over the past several years.

    So, I start calling and trying to figure out what this charge is and how to clear my name. The “red flag” popped up from an (erroneous) warrant in WA State. So, I contact the county sheriff, the court house, the state patrol the regional FBI, the NCIC/NICS FBI and anybody else who may assist.

    Nobody can point to any type of charge against me (duh!), and they can’t explain the red flag or don’t know what to do to clear me for FL to complete their background check.

    I spent all day (sorry tax-payers) and talked to two dozen different agencies and offices. This is absurd! Sure, it’s just an inconvenience and I will get this cleared up, but I’m so pissed, I’m sending multiple Congressional Offices letters on my experience.

    I’m a very small slice of society. My rank/grade and position require me to maintain a high-level clearance which is checked regularly when I travel. This whole “background checks” is clearly broken, even at a Federal level and the local levels have no clue of the ramifications when a mistake is made. Sure I want this rectified, but the attention needs to be on the system and how errors are exacerbated to the point of excruciating pain from those on the bottom rung who are just trying to exercise their rights.

    I hate to use my rank and position to address this with representatives, but if I’m at risk, than I can only imagine how little attention the majority of citizens will be given…

    Now, I must admit every office and agency between FL, WA and the local and federal FBI offices were all very courteous and attempted to help, but they just didn’t know how to fix this problem. Yeah, I’m just a little jaded at the whole situation and needing to vent…

  2. psyopspec

    psyopspec Well-Known Member


    I kid. Hopefully your situation gets worked out soon. Please let us know what office or agency is able to actually clear it up.
  3. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    Appeal to FL and ask for a written reason for refusal with case numbers of the WA notice.
  4. Ehtereon11B

    Ehtereon11B internet infantryman

    My guess would be is someone with a similar SS or name to yours was charged in WA. Something similar happened to that with a friend of mine a few years ago. Like you hope, it was eventually cleared up but it was a general pain to deal with. I just find it ironic that the current admin wants to expand the current background check system to private sales. 1.8% NICS checks are denied, and an even smaller percent are even prosecuted. But that is another thread. Hope your situation gets solved with minimal issue.
  5. Ohio Gun Guy

    Ohio Gun Guy Well-Known Member

    More minor but might be relative... When I buy a gun and use my SSN. No issues. Dont us the SSN, hold or delay. I think someone with my name (There are a few, I have google)... is not a good boy.

    For my work, I too have had several and more than the normal back-ground checks done, I noticed this seemed to slow down the approval also. I think they see that checks have been done, and then look for why.
  6. Deaf Smith

    Deaf Smith Well-Known Member

    This is a good reason to change your name to something like...

    Phaite Damya Fickleworth.

    Can't be to many of them around.

  7. vtail

    vtail Well-Known Member

    That sucks Rock6.

    Just be glad you don't live in California. They would be coming for your guns tonight.
  8. r1derbike

    r1derbike Well-Known Member

    Hope this gets rectified soon, and psyopspec, I was hoping the piccies to be frames from some juicy 2A video. It was funny enough, however.
  9. suemarkp

    suemarkp Well-Known Member

    WA sucks. I always get delayed the full 3 days, but at least not denied. When I got my CPL, the issuer kept looking at me and said a wanted felon had the same name. My name is not that common, but I'm wondering if WA doesn't use social security numbers. She also said my hair and eye colors were different, but I wonder how much thought the checkers do before they deny.
  10. 788Ham

    788Ham Well-Known Member


    I've never had that experience happen to me, however... there was at a time, 4 guys with the same name I was given. One of them lived, unknown to me at the time, 8 blks from my house, shifty dude ! Sheriff comes over one night, asks to speak with me about a matter I knew nothing about {burglary} that had happened a week previous. Luckily my wife and I had been out of town, receipts to prove it from the out of state hotel, never did hear what happened after that. Good luck on getting cleared !
  11. wriggly

    wriggly Well-Known Member

    Actually not a bad idea. My name is so unique, there is only one of me in the whole world.......seriously. I never have to worry about anybody confusing me for the other guy, because I am it. :D
  12. ROCK6

    ROCK6 Well-Known Member

    [QUOTEjoeschmoe]Appeal to FL and ask for a written reason for refusal with case numbers of the WA notice. [/QUOTE]

    That where this started and the proposed issuing court house can't figure it out. Somewhere there is an erroneous charge with my name attached. I even was directed down to a PD in Pasco, WA where my information was associated with a "field contact" loitering charge...of course that occurred when I was in Iraq:confused: And according to everyone, wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. I'm certain my info was mistakenly put into the system, but that only shows how broke the system is and even worse very difficult to rectify.

    My concern is there is a warrant out with my name associated, but it hasn't show up locally, county, state or the federal level...that has me concerned. If a FL state clerk can stumble into it, I'm sure anybody might.

    I should have the initial issue cleared enough to continue processing my CHL, but this is quite frustrating.

    It is odd that WA doesn't track anybody by SSN. Every agency that plugged me into one of numerous "systems" used my full name and birth date.

    I'm all for a "universal background check" if they'll issue a "universal CHL":banghead:

  13. AlbertH

    AlbertH member

    Welcome to a world where identity theft runs rampant. You may want to do a credit check to see if you have any accounts based in WA. It took me being denied a credit card knowing my credit rating should have been in the high 700's to find that my identity had been stolen. See what unfettered freedoms can provide you with.
  14. BADUNAME30

    BADUNAME30 Well-Known Member

    Mmm....maybe there's a clerk that needs looked at.

    ROCK6.....don't you EVER apollogize to us !!!!!
    You and your brothers in arms deserve everything that we give. I just wish the politicians would stoop stealing from your pockets.:cuss:
  15. Lex Luthier

    Lex Luthier Well-Known Member

    One of our local deputies came pounding on our front door a couple of years ago. Turns out that another man with my first and last name was wanted for a variety of indiscretions in Illinois. It took about one second for him to realize I did not fit the physical description.

    These agencies grasp at straws sometimes to get the job done. The system is broken.
  16. Hokkmike

    Hokkmike Well-Known Member

    Let us know, please, when you get to the bottom of this.....
  17. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    Agreed... I will probably be faced with the same thing the OP has been as its happened before. Ive had to deal with Child Support issues many times. The real kicker is the only kid Ive ever fathered is with my current wife!!!
  18. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    Oh, this ISN'T a perfect system?

    But no where in the Constitution does it say that we don't have to go through days of appealing, paperwork, etc. to exercise our Rights... Oh wait, it does..
  19. rdhood

    rdhood Well-Known Member

    Been there, done that. It took me a year to clear my record with a faux felony. You can attack this several ways

    1) immediately dispute with NICS. You will get back a form that shows what your record shows. You will have to send your fingerprints off to the FBI and they will do a 6 months "investigation" from which you may/may not be cleared. I wasn't. If it is not cleared at this level, it will REQUIRE Washington state to clear that record before they do anything about it.

    2) try to get whomever in Washington state that F'd up your record to change it. This is where you will have trouble because nobody in WA gives a crap about you or your problem getting a gun even though it appears to be them who made a mistake. You don't vote for anyone there, you don't pay taxes. Be nice, because they don't have to listen to you or do anything whatsoever for you.

    3) WRITE your senators. They can help you by putting pressure on the NICS system to speed up the 6 month "investigation".
  20. TNBilly

    TNBilly Well-Known Member

    RDhood: Don't know what your intent but you give the best reasoning for discontinuing the NICS system. Writing the "reps" will do nothing though, they're responsible for the problem in the first place.

    And Rock..... bad as you're being treated a "regular" person hearing back from the FBI after contesting the denial is usually just told someone of similar name or location. Totally useless and a lie at best. It's pretty hard to tell when you're not given any info whether it's really just incompetence/stupidity on their part or someone in the system using that position for a bit of "activism"!

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