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Review - Beretta/Uberti Model 1873 Renegade 20" Carbine in 45 Colt

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Leaky Waders, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member


    So after looking at lots of different models and actions in 45 long colt - I finally pulled the trigger and got an 1873 from Beretta/Uberti.

    This is a preliminary review of the Beretta Renegade 20" Carbine.

    The carbine is blued with oak stocks. The hammer has a half cock and full cock. The only additional safety is the natural squeeze required on the lever prior to pulling the trigger.

    The top of the receiver tang has "Model 1873". A beretta trident logo adorns both sides of the stock left and right of the tang. The lower tang (below the lever has "A.Uberti-Italy" and the serial number "W29629" (wow those number should've been on a S&W 44 mag revolver...) are on the lower tang nearest the butt of the stock.

    The lever is locked in place when not in use by a lever locking latch. Even though the carbine is brand new the action is very easy to cycle. The lever does have ca. 1/8" side to side play. I'm not familiar enough with lever guns to know if this is normal.

    The trigger breaks without creep and neither it or the hammer has any obvious casting marks.

    The Renegade's action is what really interests me, as well as its great looks. It has a brass elevator that moves the cartridges up from the magazine tube into the chamber. The previous round is pushed upwards and cleared from the action based upon one's force at cycling the lever. The whole contraption is covered by a sliding dust cover that moves out of the way when cycling the action. The dust cover can be moved forward to ward off the elements once emptied or loaded.

    The carbine is "controlled feed" I guess. I worked the action upside down and at 90 degrees and the 45 long colt rounds loaded flawlessly. The only jamming that resulted when cycling the action was when I initially stuffed ten rounds in the magazine (it's supposed to hold 8). The first two rounds were easily worked through the action by adjusting their cantiness (I make up words) with my fingers. Once 8 were left, the action performed as stated above.

    The octagon barrel is tipped off with a golden bead front sight and rear adjustable buckhorn site. The front sight is in a dovetail slot and secured with a machined screw, so i guess you could use it to adjust for windage as needed if there wasn't enough adjustment from the rear sight. The barrel has "Renegade Cal. 45 Colt" and "Beretta USA Corps., Ackk.,Md"

    There doesn't appear to be any plastic on the carbine - just steel, brass and walnut with a rubber butt pad.

    The carbine came packaged in a simple brown box with a one sheet of printed and folded instructions.

    So...why did I decide upon 137 year old technology? Well, to start with, the 1873 seems to be a very neat design as compared to todays levers. Couple that with no ridiculous safety devices and I was nearly sold. The final push was the loading in 45 long Colt. Even if I were to purchase an original 1873 in perfect condition, it wouldn't be chambered in 45 Long Colt - this chambering is from our century although the round was created in the last century.

    Also, with all of the CAS (I don't CAS) I feel comfortable being able to find a smith who can fix this carbine if needed.

    Lastly, I figured Winchester hasn't made any more of them since they stopped in the first 1/3rd of the century. And, if they did it would probably be all lawyered up...so I went with this and like my choice. Hopefully she shoots as fun as she looks.

    Now I'll try to upload some pictures of the 1873 to show what i described. I've also placed the 1873 between a 9422 and an 1895 so people familiar with those actions can compare sizes and operation (I don't own a 30-30 to throw a 336 or model 94 against it for pics.)



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  2. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    OK, you should be able to click on these pics and make them a little bigger...the first shows the action open - there is some short throw toggle assembly that comes with the carbine.

    Second pic is the hammer back to firing position - the box in the background was what the renegade came home in.

    Third pic is eight 45 long colts lining up to get fed into the action.

    Lastly the business end of the carbine.

    N.B. There looks like a little rust on some areas of the carbine - this is an illusion. I wiped some of the oil and finger prints with a red rag and the remaining fibers look like rust...

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  3. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    The butt end. In one of the books i have it shows a storage area in the stock...this carbine does not have one. Also the pad is fitted well, but has some rough areas that looks like it was fitted with 80 grit instead of some fine sandpaper - no big deal to me - just posting the facts Ma'am...nothing but the facts.

    The second pic shows the 8 little dwarfs...i mean colts getting in the magazine.

    With pics 3,4,and 5 on this page I tried to show various steps from the overhead view of the action cycling. It's really cool when you see it in person.

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  4. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    Literature that came with the carbine, Uberti markings/ rear sight with caliber marks.

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    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    1873 versus 1895 actions open and top from comparison.

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  6. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    Top view - 9422 (bottom), 1873 (middle), and 1895 (top) receiver widths.

    Side view - 9422 (top), 1873 (middle), and 1895 (bottom) receiver comparison.

    Top rear tang markings " Model 1873".

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  7. Leaky Waders

    Leaky Waders Well-Known Member

    space reserved for range photos and f/u
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    more space reserved for range pics
  9. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

    Glad you like your new rifle. Having benefitted from more than a century of advances in metallurgy and manufacturing techniques, it is my opinion that the Uberti replicas are as good as, if not even better than, the original firearms they copy. Excellent fit and finish and silky smooth actions compliment the fine woods. Yet they still sell at a very reasonable price point that is in line with the working mans budget. There is a reason Uberti guns dominate CAS.

    I recently purchased a Uberti 1851 Navy Richards-Mason conversion revolver in .38 spl., and cannot find a single flaw in the gun. The mainspring is, like most unmodified single actions, too stout to fan the hammer without tearing up the hand. But if I had the desire to change that, it would be easily done.

    An 1858 new army conversion .45 colt is my most likely next purchase, then later the more expensive rifles and carbines (really like their Sharps replicas. Absolutely gorgeous). I love my Marlin leverguns, but if you want period correct, Uberti is the way to go. As for hog legs, for less than half the price of a real Colt, the Uberti's give up nothing.

    Anyone who has read many of my posts knows how much I prefer to buy US-made products whenever possible. However, until a Domestic manufacturer starts producing these guns, and with comparable quality, I have no problem buying Italian made. After all, that is my heritage.
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  10. HPJeep

    HPJeep Well-Known Member

    Odd that the buttplate is rubber. Other than that its a nice gun. I love shooting the originals but would rather tear up the replicas instead of the originals.

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