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Revolvers in IDPA

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by Dr.Rob, Dec 30, 2002.

  1. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    Just wondering if anyone here is using a revolver for IDPA. Can you describe your set up? Holster/weapon/carriers etc?

    I'm thinking about packing a wheelgun to my next match.
  2. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    My current SSR is a S&W M25-2 with barrel sawn off to 4"; in a Ready Tactical Products kydex paddle holster and matching moonclip carriers. Calibre .45 ACP with 230 gr LRN at 650 fps in full moon clips.

    The 1999 season I shot a 4" Python from a Kramer vertical scabbard loading .38 Special LRN with Safariland Comp II speedloaders carried in The Bear's speedloader pouches.

    Claude Werner usually beats me with a 2.5" M19 from a IWB.
  3. NEon

    NEon Well-Known Member

    Who did the saw for you. Finding a 4" is pretty hard, finding a 5" in no problem.
  4. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    My FLG did the work. It is pretty basic, just a flat crown and a screw-on Ron Power ramp; he really doesn't like working on revolvers. That is its second stop, it was a 5" cut from 6.5" while 5" barrels were allowed. Scott Mulerkin does prettier work.
    Lots of 5" 625's sitting on shelves since Oct 26 when they reduced the max barrel length to 4".
  5. Wakal

    Wakal Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the holster and load tips on your 25...just picked up one of those rare 4" 625's and was going to ask what the smart folks were using :)

  6. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    Clays is the cleanest burning powder I have found for light loads. I don't usually worry about that, I clean my guns occasionally, but you do NOT want unburnt granules under the extractor. Depending on the bullet and seating I have been using 3.1 to 3.5 grains for 600 - 700 fps which is plenty with a 230 grain RN. Best to use a chronograph and work DOWN from the starting load in your gun. I have not had any trouble as low as 600 fps with cast bullets, and don't want a stuck bullet. A friend stuck a jacketed bullet in his barrel trying to go too light. Fortunately he was not shooting rapid fire and did not fire the next. But I have seen that happen and it is hard on barrels.
  7. NEon

    NEon Well-Known Member

    Hrd on the barrel! I guess it's hard on the barrel. A buddy of mine took the barrel right off the gun, opened the top strap, and took out part of the cylinder. We call him two finger! Just kidding on the fingers, he is ok.
  8. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    A stuck bullet pushed out by a following target load will only bulge the barrel. I have seen people to do it and not know it until they cleaned the gun and felt the patch go loose partway down. Saw a friend stick one in a .45 auto; thinking it was a misfire, he racked the slide and fired. The bushing wedged tight over the bulge in the barrel. It took a hammer to disassemble, but all that was required was a new barrel and bushing.

    A blown cylinder and topstrap is more likely a double charge, although it might happen with a stuck bullet and Magnums.

    The only gun ever demolished on our range was almost certainly from two doses of Bullseye at full power .357. Loading full charge magnums with fast burning powder is not a good idea. Lending them out can get expensive, as happened here.
  9. NEon

    NEon Well-Known Member

    Jim, it was a 357 S&W Model 66 with issue ammo. Caught everyone's interest on the range. Ammo company both the old boy a new gun.
  10. Mike Irwin

    Mike Irwin Well-Known Member


    If it were allowed, I'd be using a shoulder holster with belt speedloader pouches.

    Since I can't, I normally use a Don Hume strong-side with a double speedloader pouch on the weak side.

    My revolver is either my Model 19 4", or my Model 19 2.5".

    The first time I shot I caused the guy running the match no small amount of consternation. He wanted me to wear the speedloader pouch strong side in front of the holster.

    I must have looked at him like he was an alien or something, and I don't think he quite believed me when I told him that I shot right handed and reloaded left handed.

    I don't think he believed me until I had several flawless reloads in a row.
  11. M1911

    M1911 Well-Known Member

    I'm debating whether to keep my 5" as is, or have it cut off, or have it replaced with a 4" barrel.
  12. NEon

    NEon Well-Known Member

    I'm shooting the S&W IDPA Winter Championship in late Feb. I am taking my old model 25 (45acp) down (the shoot is at the factory) and see about putting a four inch barrel on it.
  13. Neil Casper

    Neil Casper Active Member

    I usually use a S&W Model 19 4" in a Kramer Vertical Scabbard. Safariland Comp II Speed Loaders in Talon Tactical Kydex holders.
    I load Berry's 158 gr plated round nose bullets in Winchester brass with either Federal or Winchester primers. I'm adicted to Scott Solo 1250 and push the 158 about 850-875 fps. Sometimes I load .357s with the same bullet and push 1250 fps. They have asked me not to use that indoors anymore. Besides the noise, it blinds everyone with the flash!
  14. Guy B. Meredith

    Guy B. Meredith Well-Known Member

    I am poking around to see how serious I will be about IDPA (not that I am particularly serious about ANY competition) and how much money I will spend.

    For right now I am using my 4" M66, Fobus Kydex and Safariland Comp IIIs in moonclip carriers. I would like to get an adjustable holster, probably still Kydex, would like IDPA to allow moonclip conversions as I do not like cranky breakable speedloaders.
  15. Prodigalshooter

    Prodigalshooter Well-Known Member

    I just classified with my model 66 last night (Marksman). I'm using a Hume open top paddle, but don't have any holder for my speedloaders yet (on order 1.5 months
    :rolleyes: ) so I was pulling them outa my pockets;)
    Still did ok, for me. I like the Safariland Comp II loaders, they work well. Now I'm Marksman in all 4 categories, so I'm going to concentrate on moving into the SS level next.
    For ammo in the revolver, I'm using Winchester .38s in the 130 gr.FMJ. Easy shooting and loading.
  16. Poohgyrr

    Poohgyrr Well-Known Member

    Geez, I haven't been able to make a match in way too long, let alone take a revolver with me.

    That said, I really like Comp II's for the mid frames, they've been bullet proof and smooth. And it seems I have to be happy with Comp I's for the N frame.

    I use a Sparks SS-2 for my 3" mid frame revolvers, and a Versa Max-2 for my N frame.
  17. mark mcj

    mark mcj Well-Known Member

    I just started using a 6 shooter and use a S&W 586 4". My holster is a Safariland 561. My speed loaders are SL Comp II's
    the speed loader holders I use are not approved by IDPA so, no use in listing them.
    I don't mind your .357 loads Neil:what:
  18. Neil Casper

    Neil Casper Active Member

    Mark McJ-
    Keep practicing those left handed revolver reloads, there's nothing wrong with your shooting!
  19. M1911

    M1911 Well-Known Member

    I was chatting with a fellow at an IDPA match at S&W Academy last Saturday. He was shooting a 625. When I told him that I was considering getting my 5" cut down to 4", he told me not to. He'd sent his 5" in to S&W to have the front sight changed. Rather than just change the front sight, they changed the front barrel. In doing so, they broke the frame, and had to replace it with one of the new ones (with the lock).

    If I decide to get my 5" cut down to 4", I think I may pick a gunsmith, rather than S&W.
  20. mark mcj

    mark mcj Well-Known Member

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