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rifle action

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by icon308win, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. icon308win

    icon308win Well-Known Member

    I am wondering what actions are the best to work with as far as rebarrelling and action works and triggers
  2. Ramone

    Ramone Well-Known Member

    If you are talking Bolt Actions, Savage gets big points for using an easy to work with Barrel Nut on their actions.

    Their Accu-Trigger really doesn't require any work at all, and is easily adjusted.
  3. icon308win

    icon308win Well-Known Member

    yes bolt actions
  4. BoilerUP

    BoilerUP Well-Known Member

    Savage Model 10/110 actions (includes the 11/111, 12/112, 14/114, 16/116) are far and away the best bolt action for DIY barrel swaps; you can go from 223 to 338 Edge with just a new prefit barrel and bolt head and install both in <15min once you do it a few times.

    I believe the Marlin XL7 uses a barrel nut and will accept Savage small/standard shank barrels too, but its aftermarket is VERY small.

    Remington 700s are far and away the most popular base action with the largest aftermarket (Savage is a distant second), but barrel installation and chambering is a gunsmith proposition.
  5. icon308win

    icon308win Well-Known Member

    how are Howa and weatherby vanguards
  6. BoilerUP

    BoilerUP Well-Known Member

    Good rifles, limited aftermarket and fewer gunsmiths that specialize in them.
  7. Ash

    Ash Well-Known Member

    They are good rifle with enough support to be no big deal. But the Savage is bar none the easiest to rebarrel (the Mossberg 100/4x4 and others that now use a barrel nut aren't so bad, either). I changed my 30-06 to 270 without any problem at all. And, you can even adjust the chamber to exactly fit a certain round, if you want. The initial expense of a receiver wrench is cheap compared to what you can do with one.

    Granted, you won't want to rebarrel over and over again - which is to say you won't want to rebarrel for different loads or in some way treat it like a take-down rifle, but it is an easy job. The only potential problem would be using a barrel that has installed iron sights. Getting the sights to line up with the top of the receiver can be a pill. Otherwise, the 110 action is the easiest to do (and to get a really consistent chamber).
  8. Halal Pork

    Halal Pork Well-Known Member

    Push feed actions are much simpler to rebarrel than CRF. That is my understanding at least. I'm no gunsmith. Are you planning to do it yourself?
  9. jmr40

    jmr40 Well-Known Member

    Savage rifles are designed for DIY types and can be done for less money. All the serious shooters I know who use Savage replace the Accutrigger. It is DIY adjustable, but not a great trigger.

    Remingtons will require a gunsmith, but probably have the most options and have the most gunsmiths who know how to work on them.
  10. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member

    In my opinion triggers are among the easier things to improve and work on with so many after market triggers available for so many makes and models. When you start getting into replacing barrels things change in that specialized tools become necessary like barrel vise and action wrenches. The same holds true for many bolt assemblies on bolt action rifles to easily dissemble and reassemble the bolts. So once we get away from simpler drop in replacement parts special tools are needed for different actions.

    Personally I like Remington actions as I happen to have more tools available for those actions but that being just me. I just see it as a matter of what tooling someone has.

  11. jimmyraythomason

    jimmyraythomason Well-Known Member

    Not in all cases. The Mauser 98 reguires nothing additional in barrel replacement but the Yugo M-48(also a Mauser 98 but in an intermediate length)does reguire a cut for the extractor.
  12. Halal Pork

    Halal Pork Well-Known Member

  13. pdd614

    pdd614 Well-Known Member

    Easiest to rebarrel bolt action has got to be the tc dimension rifle. The rifle has its flaws, but changing out a barrel isn't one of them. What other rifle company provides a torque wrench for changing barrels? Savage has never advertised there rifles as switch barrel capable.
  14. Ash

    Ash Well-Known Member

    They have not advertised their rifles in that way, true, but that does not change the fact that it is easy to do. Plus, the TC does the same thing the Savage does, but with an exaggerated barrel nut.
  15. dirtyjim

    dirtyjim Well-Known Member

    i prefer to work on mauser actions.
    but as far as rebarreling goes i cut the barrel threads to fit the particular action i'm working on and do not use short chambered pre-threaded barrels due to the variances in receiver threads from action to action.
  16. icon308win

    icon308win Well-Known Member

    I have a TC Icon I do like the rifle just no parts for them.I cant find anyone who rebarrels them.Id just like to get a rifle I could have customized over the yrs
  17. pdd614

    pdd614 Well-Known Member

    Ash, actually the dimension rifle head spaces nothing like a savage. Barrels from TC come with a pre installed extension, much like an ar15, and the bolt locks into the extension. The savage basically head spaces just like a remington 700, except obviously the headspace is adjustable via the barrel nut.
  18. icon308win

    icon308win Well-Known Member

    id prefer a traditional rifle instead of one of the quik change ones im thinking rem 700 Weatherby vanguard ruger 77 winchester 70 browning x bolt
  19. pdd614

    pdd614 Well-Known Member

    Sorry Icon, I guess I was confused by your first post. Thought you wanted an easy to rebarrel action. Weatherby vanguards and howa's have metric barrel threads, and alot of smith's won't touch them. It might be easier to have someone rebarrel the TC icon for you. I went down that road myself, and found a very reputable smith that has a action wrench for the Icon. As far as features go, the Icon action has all the others you mentioned beat. None of these other actions offer three intregral recoil lugs, integral picatinny rails, and a three lug bolt. All the icon needs in my book is a nice adjustable two stage trigger.
  20. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member

    The below pictured rifle began as a Remington Model 725 Bolt Action Centerfire Rifle originally chambered in .222 Rem. – 1959 – 24" barrel. The original barrel was a pencil barrel. I re-barreled the rifle and chambered it in .223. It was done as part of a NRA Gunsmithing class I took about 15 years ago. The action was trued and the bolt lapped. This turned out to be one of my best little tack driving rifles. I should still have the original walnut stock and pencil barrel around here somewhere. The new stock is aluminum bedded and the barrel channel opened up. The stainless barrel on the blued action makes for a nice contrast. The barrel was maybe a Krieger or Shilen as I forget and the rifle was my first chamber cut and barrel threading.


    I later did several Remington actions in .308. I really enjoy shooting that little rifle.


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