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Ripped off by pawn shop

Discussion in 'Legal' started by pawnshopripoff, Jul 18, 2011.

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  1. I was ripped off by a pawn shop. I purchased a pump shotgun, around $150, and was assured that it worked and worked great. I got it home and it didn't cycle shells; unless I took snap caps with me, which I don't own, there's no way of know this from looking at it. When I brought it back to discuss it with them, they simply pointed to the "all sales final" sign. I told them that I thought it was dishonest of them to tell me it functioned properly if they didn't know. They told me they wouldn't do anything about it and to leave, and suggested I take it to the other pawn shop in town, tell them it worked, and see if they'd give me anything for it by lying that it functions.

    I have another firearm, a handgun, that doesn't fire. I bought it new, I returned it when it didn't fire, the company did some work and sent it back. It still didn't fire. They sent me a replacement and I kept the non-functional firearm.

    I was considering getting my money back for the initial firearm by selling them this one (it's a low-cost firearm, maybe $150-200 new). I would take it to the place that ripped me off and sell it as working (they're fools, they certainly won't remember me).

    However, I wouldn't want to burden the person THEY sell it with a broken item. So, I was considering calling and telling them it didn't work after they had paid. I know they keep your information on file, though. I'm wondering if they have any recourse. I just don't want to make someone else stuck with a broken gun like I was, but I can't put up with people like this getting away with stealing people's money. Would they have any recourse?
  2. sig232

    sig232 Member

    You don't say?..........
  3. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Well-Known Member

    Sounds like all sales are final to me.
  4. sig232

    sig232 Member

    Well, you can write reviews, usually yahoo has business listings where you can do that.

    Drop the shop's name/location here. Might as well let the world know not to deal with them if that's how they operate.
  5. Danb1215

    Danb1215 Well-Known Member

    They wouldn't really have anymore recourse in that situation than you have now. They would just turn around and sell it to someone else that didn't know better and the cycle would repeat itself and they wouldn't be out much if anything.

    Personally if I were you I would set up shop immediately off their property as close as you could legally be, and inform everyone going in of their tactics. Preferably with a bullhorn. Ensure that they're actions cost them way more than the $150 they made off of you. In one days time you could cost them way more. Maybe get the business cards of their competitors and pass them out at the nearest choke point to the store (again off their property so you can't be forced to leave). In short kick them in the cash register. I wouldn't stop the above course of actions until either they gave me a complete refund for the broken gun, or I was sure that it cost them many times more than they made off of me.
  6. shiftyer1

    shiftyer1 Well-Known Member

    They have no recourse but the broken firearm you sell them will probably be resold as working to another sucker.

    I have 10 years pawn experience and actually got fired in jan. for standing behind items sold.

    Why doesn't it cycle shells...I bet it's an easy fix. If you give more info I bet we can get it running for you.
  7. Danb1215

    Danb1215 Well-Known Member

    and seriously plaster it all over the internet. yahoo/google/whatever business reviews. And you should post their info here as well.
  8. Maybe you're not familiar with lemon laws, but these sorts of practices aren't just frowned upon, they're illegal. However, being a pawn shop, they're well aware that most of their customers aren't going to spend a considerable amount of time and money taking them to small claims court.

    So, no, when it comes to selling something as functional when it doesn't, as far as the law is concerned, all sales are not "final." The issue is handling the situation.

    However, this is not what this thread is about. This thread is about getting my money back by selling them something as functional, which say what you will, I have zero moral issue with. However, I don't want someone else to get stuck with it, so I was wondering if they had any recourse if I called to tell them it didn't work.
  9. bigfatdave

    bigfatdave Well-Known Member

    that's true ... but this is not a pawn-shop review forum, it is a gun forum.

    Drop a nastygram over in "Rate retail and private transactions" with shop name and location, and get some info up in the shotgun forum if you want to take a swing at repair - but don't expect a magic formula for making pawn shops be honest to crop up in the legal forum
  10. shiftyer1

    shiftyer1 Well-Known Member

    THEY HAVE ZERO RECOURSE but it will be resold to someone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooooo back to what is the gun u bought and why is it not functioning?
  11. I actually wrote several reviews, and filed with the BBB. They told me they don't "reprimand businesses," which was all I asked for, as I've since gotten rid of the shotgun.

    I was trying to think of a way to make it obvious that it doesn't work except on their first inspection, but that seems... well, not possible.

    It was a difficult shotgun to repair, as far as I've read online. It's a commonly problematic item, and most smiths that responded to posts about it said it would be more expensive to repair than to simply throw away and buy another firearm.
  12. I've since gotten rid of it. Every discussion I found online with similar issues said this particular model was more expensive to repair than just to buy something else.
  13. shiftyer1

    shiftyer1 Well-Known Member

    Now u really have me curious, what model shotgun did you buy?
  14. It was a Stevens pump. I forget the model, it was 12ga, looked fairly simple, but apparently the barrel wasn't removable without unwelding it, which is what would be needed to really repair anything mechanically.
  15. MarkDozier

    MarkDozier Member.

    i have never heard of a Stevens pump with a welded barrel.
  16. sig232

    sig232 Member

    Trollololol I like it!
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2011
  17. shiftyer1

    shiftyer1 Well-Known Member

    I was going that direction but was trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
  18. sig232

    sig232 Member

    BBB is a joke. They have high ratings for some of the biggest scams out there.
  19. Apocalypse-Now

    Apocalypse-Now Well-Known Member

    you have to check lemon laws in your state. you may have legal recourse, but probably not. they did lie to you (never trust pawn shops), so you can at the least report them to the BBB.
  20. Bubba613

    Bubba613 member

    Presumably the gun was a used item. The Pawn Shop is not obligated to assure that it works. Caveat emptor. Buyer was looking for a deal. If he wanted to be sure something worked, he could have bought a new gun with a warranty from the manufacturer, or gone to a traditional gun shop with a good reputation.
    Being assured it "worked great" is called "sales puffing" in legal terms and carries no weight.
    The pawn shop is correct here. The buyer is out.
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