Ruger LC9 vs Kel Tec PF9

[Just One Shot]

Neither.

The Keltec fit and finish is awful and it isn't shooter friendly. I like to be able to put a couple hundred rounds through my carry gun to stay in practice without having tingling feelings in my hand when I'm done.

While I've never shot the Ruger I did check one out at the gun store Saturday and the trigger is horrible. I can't understand why a gun that has a manual safety on it would need such a looooong trigger pull.

I would check out the Kahr CM9. If it's anything like my PM9 was it will be a great shooter!

But that's just my .02 and worth everything you paid for it.

 

[il_10]

I bought the PF9 last week, based on my desire for a pocketable 9mm, and my dislike of both the added "features" on the LC9 and my dislike of Ruger's copying of kel-tec's design.

There are plenty of Rugers that I would buy, but the lcp and lc9 are not on that list.

I'm really liking the gun. I've got a beretta jetfire for super-ultra-deep concealment, but the PF9 doesn't weigh much more, and is almost as easy to conceal while offering a significant increase in firepower by all standards. I found the recoil to be harsh, but acceptable, and I found accuracy to be outstanding. The trigger is better than the p11 or LC9; it's long, but quite smooth. Long story short, it's a keeper.

 

[PX15]

JMOfartO:

There are very few REAL "new" designs on the market.. Perhaps the "RHINO"? But as for Ruger copying Keltec (which they did), or NAA copying Seecamp, (which they did), or a bazillion manufactures copying Colts 1911, or any of the other gun makers doing the same thing I simply don't care...

Not sure I like that guy in the cave in Turkey handmaking his copy of the original wonderful Browning HP, but hey, everyone's gotta make a buck, right?

Vote with your money, and if it offends you that manufacturer "A" copied a product of manufacturer "B" , then just don't buy anything from manufacturer "A"..

Simple as that.

I bought the LCP over the P3AT because I like Rugers.. I've owned a Ruger product of some description for over 4 decades... Never had a bad one. (KOW)..

I've owned two KelTecs. A P11, and a P32. Both were very, very good. But KelTec does not, in my opinion, finish off their guns as well as Ruger does their COPIES of those guns.

KelTec offers a lifetime warranty with no questions asked (a customer service I would suggest is 2nd only to,of all manufacturers, HiPoint)...

KelTec does have a great Customer Service reputation...

That's great, but I've never NEEDED customer support for any of my Rugers, I don't expect to now, and if I do I honestly believe RUGER CS will take care of my problem.

I bought the LC9 because EVERYONE I know who has them (8-10 people) have NEVER had a problem with any of them. Between my wife and myself we have three now. Never a burp from any of them..

I bought the LC9 for the same reason. Everyone I knew who owned one, and the vast majority of owners who post comments on the online gun forums who owned one loved 'em.. Reliability was a given.

For me RELIABILITY IS JOB 1... Period.

I'm not "anti-KelTec".. I just prefer the Ruger copies, thank you very much.

Heck there are still folks out there who hate S&W because the PREVIOUS owners caved to Clinton way back when.. I have 6 3rd Gen Smiths that are all excellent, and again RELIABILITY is a given with all of them.

So, I don't take offense if a person prefers a gun choice different from that I might make.. I'm glad we have choices, and I'd rather be discussing personal likes and dislikes in gun manufacturers with another 2nd Amendment lover here than some liberal who wants eliminate ALL of our choices in firearms.

Just conversin', not confrontin', and no offense to nobody nohow and no I would not recognize a double (or triple) negative if you hit me on the head with one..

Best Wishes,

Jesse

 

[psyshack]

I am PF-9 owner and have shot both side by side. My PF-9's fit and finish is pretty darn bad. And thats the only thing wrong with it. It's a shooter and them some.

For me the LC9 was to busy. I've put close to 500 rounds through one. Fit and finish is great. But all the extras suck. And the trigger is worse IMHO than a P-11.

Any of the small 9mm's are going to have a snappy recoil. And thats just it,,, snappy. There not brutal,, just snappy.

 

[Effigy]

Yeah, in my experience the one down side to the Kel Tec is the horrible finish. I had to shave a bunch of bunch of flashing off the frame and trigger. I repainted the contrast sights as well. I don't mind that on a cheap gun though. In a way it has a certain charm because it feels more like a project than a fully finished gun, although it runs fine without any modifications.

 

[CZ223]

I have handled both

I have not shot either. That said, I would, and probably will, buy the LC9. The trigger on the Kel-tec is horrible and the overall quality of the gun has a lot to be desired. I know they make a reliable gun so if reliability were the only consideration I wouldn't hesitate to own one, but it is not. The Ruger looks and feels better. The trigger is noticeably better. My two LCPs are great little guns and this looks like a real winner.

 

[451 Detonics]

Well...the Ruger is larger, heavier, and more expensive than the Kel-Tec. It has unnecessary safeties and an unneeded loaded chamber indicator that hangs up in some holsters, especially those made the old fashioned way using leather. The molded grip on the Kel-Tec is very secure even in sweaty hands. The finish of the Kel-Tec is not a high polish blue but it is a no glare (preferable in a SD gun) very durable finish. And a couple minutes removing some minor flashing with an emery board really isn't that tough.

I have handled several LC9's and the trigger in them doesn't come close to the extremely smooth trigger in my PF-9. Everyone who has shot it has commented the trigger while long was very smooth and light. It feels like a well tuned K-Frame S&W albeit a touch longer. Of course my PF-9 has probably 3000 rounds of 9mm and another 1000 rounds of 22 through it along with a bunch of dry fire with a snap cap.

The availability of a 22 conversion is another plus for the PF-9. 1000 rounds of practice 9mm would about pay for the conversion and the gun is really fun with the 22 conversion in place. Also makes for a good training piece for new shooters.



I am not anti Ruger...I own several but I really feel quality control has gone way down since Bill Sr. passed away. Today it seems like the factory just wants to rush things into production and let the customers handle the QC and then do recalls to fix the problems the customers find.