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"Safe" Ammo, LE use only

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Whacked, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. Whacked

    Whacked Well-Known Member

    OK, this sounds like a good idea and can have some good specific uses.
    However, its would seem to me that anything fired from a 12ga would pierce the skin of a airplane. After all, it is only sheetmetal with some insulation and interior cosmetic panels.
  2. M-Cameron

    M-Cameron member

    sooo.....they are marketing less lethal ammo?

    the same less lethal ammo thats been on the market for the past 40 years or so....

    that being said...if Achmed is going to blow up a plane, i want air marshals to use a round that will be the most effective at stopping him....not something that will 'stun' him.

    honestly, a few bullet holes in a planes exterior is not going to harm the plane in any significant way.
  3. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    Sounds pretty similar to the various bean-bag or rubber bullet rounds that have been available for quite some time.
  4. Isaac-1

    Isaac-1 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone noticed they showed a picture of a 50 round pack of handgun bullets then went on to talk a bout a 12 GA round?
  5. Jeff H

    Jeff H Well-Known Member

    That is what I got out of the article as well.

    Not only that, but they are too long to be 9mm or 40. Look like 38 super to me.
  6. Zardaia

    Zardaia Well-Known Member

    What air marshal carries a 12g anyway?
  7. Jeff H

    Jeff H Well-Known Member

    double post
  8. TX1911fan

    TX1911fan Well-Known Member

    So there is a round that is less lethal, will not harm bystanders, and it is provided ONLY to law enforcement? How does that make any sense.

    Not that I think this ammo is worth anything, I just don't understand the concept of marketing it only to LEO.
  9. SSN Vet

    SSN Vet Well-Known Member

    Would you buy it?
  10. Shawn Dodson

    Shawn Dodson Well-Known Member

    The company's website indicates it's a 12 gauge round - http://www.integrityballistics.com/

    The website presents a couple videos of tests.
  11. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    Mythbusters tested it, and in order to get explosive decompression in a plane you need an explosive to blast a hole in the wall. A handgun (what most air marshals would have anyway) wouldn't be a significant threat.

    The description sounds like a less lethal round. I think the reason it's marketed as LEO only is because the the company figures a BG will be too scared to use real bullets on a plane, so they want to limit the BG ability to use this on a plane. Not saying I agree, but its one possibility.
  12. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

    Not me.
    When I have to resort to deadly force to defend my life, I want something that has more of a chance to stop the threat than something "less lethal".
  13. Shawn Dodson

    Shawn Dodson Well-Known Member

    When LE use "less lethal" munitions they're always backed-up by officers who are prepared to immediately use deadly force in the event the less lethal option fails and the bad guy attacks.
  14. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

    I was talking for myself (non-LEO).
  15. armsmaster270

    armsmaster270 Well-Known Member

    Air Marshals carry 357Sig's. With full power loads last I knew Speer Gold Dots.

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