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Safe, secret long term gun storage

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by homeka45, Jan 7, 2003.

  1. homeka45

    homeka45 Well-Known Member

    Any ideas or suggestions as to the best way to stash one or two guns and their ammo if things went to hell? I was thinking of burial, but how would you keep someone with a metal detector from finding said cache? Also what would be the best way to prevent corrosion? Any and all suggestions are welcome,
  2. rick458

    rick458 Well-Known Member

    if somebody is really wanting to find your stuff they will find it ,with ground penetrating radar and the ultralow sound wave devices they have now there are no true hiding places
    as for very long term storage it is hard to beat cosmoline and cheese cloth and wax paper
  3. answerguy

    answerguy Well-Known Member

    They'll find it on your city lot, but not so likely to find it buried in some remote location.
  4. Bottom Gun

    Bottom Gun Well-Known Member

    Send them to me. I'll hide them for you and won't tell a soul.:D
  5. Mark Tyson

    Mark Tyson Well-Known Member

    An area whose ground is rich in natural metals could make radar detectors useless, but ground penetrating radar is hard to beat. Police have used it to find bodies buried under concrete or pavement. Your best hope is remoteness. Bury your goods in as distant a place as possible, preferably somewhere with a very low water table. Mark the location with GPS and map. There are plenty of books about underground storage available; there is also an army field manual concerning the subject, though I can't recall the name.
  6. suvdrvr

    suvdrvr Well-Known Member

    I read that you can put them in a large piece of PVC pipe with dessicant, and propery sealed. The trick is to bury them verticaly so they don't show up so easily to detectors.
  7. answerguy

    answerguy Well-Known Member

    Don't just rely on GPS though. In a true SHTF scenario GPS is likely to be turned off for civilian use.
  8. sm

    sm member

    I just remember the adage "hide in plain site".
    even now BG's find stuff with simple metal detectors in homes, often find the well hidden, overlook the obvious.
    Just a thought, smarter not harder.
    Mechanic had a can of hand cleaner-old never used sitting on a dusty shelf back of shop-did use the 38 to change a BG's mind once tho' occupying the can.
  9. oldfart

    oldfart Well-Known Member

    Gun storage

    A friend of mine told me how he hid some stuff. It made sense to me so I'll pass it on.
    First, make sure the gun is clean and lightly oiled. Pack it in an ABS plastic tube with whatever ammo you think you'll need and several oxygen absorbing packets.
    ABS is better than PVC because it isn't so brittle and also because it's black.
    The oxygen absorbing packets are vastly superior to dessicants if you intend to store the gun for an extended period of time, such as several years. They can be found on the web, sold by food preservation companies. The reason they're best is because they lock up 99.99% of the free oxygen in a package. No oxygen, no oxidation, no rust.
    Once you get everything in the pipe, glue caps on both ends. Don't trust those more expensive screw-on plugs, in time, they'll leak.
    Now, watch the local cemetery. As soon as a funeral is over and the tent is gone, leaving the flowers laying over the re-sodded grave, visit the "Dearly Departed" one more time, preferably in the middle of the night. Take your package, a black, plastic bucket, a folding shovel and some black plastic sheeting. Spread the plastic out around the grave to keep the newly turned dirt from showing and pull back some of the sod. Dig a trench in the soft dirt and bury your package. Cover everything up and make it look like you've_never been there. You'll have two to three buckets of dirt left over. Every cemetery has an area where they dispose of excess dirt, so you'll have to carry the dirt there. Fold up the plastic sheeting, put it in the bucket, grab your shovel and go have a beer. Oh yes, remember whose grave it is so you can go back there if you need to.
  10. rock jock

    rock jock Well-Known Member

    What in the world does it matter what color it is if its not exposed to the sun? More tactical, I suppose?
    Burying your guns in freshly dug graves? I'm sorry, this is ridiculous.
  11. TearsOfRage

    TearsOfRage Well-Known Member

    I believe the black is to make it less obvious if it gets uncovered due to a mudslide or something. I've heard of people painting white pipe brown for the sasme reason.
  12. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    In meow opinion, if the time comes when we need to bury guns, we oughta be using 'em.

    Remember the Russians - they had some problems with some villages that had buried arms - They relocated the people, then brought in bulldozers and leveled the whole area. No landmarks (then - pre-gps) meant no recovery of buried stuff.
  13. AZTOY

    AZTOY Well-Known Member

    rock jock
    I like the grave idea.

    Well i got 15 acres and my freind has 40 .How well do you guy think the leo are going to look. I can see them look around the houses . But i can't see them walking around the hole 40 acres look for a hiding cache.

    I'm wrong ?:confused:
  14. laynlow

    laynlow Well-Known Member

    Go search TFL. Someone asked this question before and a link was posted. The link will take you to a web site where some guy took great pains to plan and hide his cache.
  15. homeka45

    homeka45 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the info. I'll go back and check on the TFL. Nice to know there are such knowledgeable and helpful people here!
  16. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    I think Bogie hit the nail on the head.
  17. sm

    sm member

    Yep, lots of family burial plots.
    Infastructure probably won't get leveled, especially some types.
    just saying, by the time need arises, you should have already in hand. Some areas will continue reverence and respect--some won't--notice what you DON'T notice, is all I'm suggesting.

    Someone did bury using pvc(thread somewhere) went back to check and under a lot of dirt...50' IIRC.
  18. gun-fucious

    gun-fucious Well-Known Member

    didn't they find a pilgram era matchlock behind some paneling in an olde New England home in the late 90s?
  19. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Ridiculous? I think oldfart's post is the best thing I've read all week! :D
  20. sm

    sm member

    Or graves as Edgar Allan Poe wrote about;)

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