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Sarsilmaz 9mm handgun?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by StephenT, Aug 15, 2007.

  1. StephenT

    StephenT Well-Known Member

    Today, the Academy Sports (TX) flyer is advertising a Sarsilmaz Hancer 9mm pistol on sale for $359.99. I think Academy Sports here in Houston carries two variations, the other being a 15+1 Kama sporting a longer barrel and vents toward the front of the frame.

    I was wondering if anyone on the board had picked up one of these Turkish-made guns and how well the gun has performed for you thus far....

    Here's a link to the company's website: http://www.sarsilmaz.com/eng/urun_alt.php?id=21
  2. megjur

    megjur Member

    Sarsilmaz is building their CZ-75 knockoff for Armalite too, reviews have been good. The Kama, if I'm correct features a slide mount decocker, while the Hancer has standard CZ75 safety.
  3. StephenT

    StephenT Well-Known Member

    Well, I decided to take the plunge and picked up the 9mm. Though quite compact (13 round mags) and comfortable in my hand, the gun is actually quite heavy being all steel. It reminds me of the CZ-75 PCR. Fit and finish seem to be excellent. I'll give it a test run this weekend and will let you how it performs.
  4. Whirlwind06

    Whirlwind06 Well-Known Member

    Looks a lot like my Baby desert eagle. But the DE has a slide mounted safety.
    Mine is all steel too.
  5. Silent Bob

    Silent Bob Well-Known Member

    Can the Hancer be carried cocked and locked?
  6. ajoker31

    ajoker31 Well-Known Member

    Really looking forward to your range report. Although I was tempted to buy one myself I wanted to give them a bit of time before I also took the plung. If my local Academy Sports would have had one with a lower serial number it would have been impossible to hold back.

    Now if Academy starts selling the Kilinc 2000 Professional I'll be all over it! I haven't seen anything about a warranty on it though....have you?

  7. StephenT

    StephenT Well-Known Member

    Bob -- yes, the gun may be carried in condition 1.
  8. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    Clone of a clone. Sarsilmaz was originally listed by Tanfoglio as a distributer, then moved into thier own manufacturing. Now the clone of a clone is coming in the US as Armalite, and under it's own name.
    Don't think this means it is a bad sidearm, by any means. Sarsilmaz had an interesting torture test ala Glock with one of thier early pistols, and it passed quite handily. The CZ-75 based Sarsilmaz is apparently quite a fine firearm, and Turkey has had an extensive quality firearms industry for some time.
    They have some engraved models that are quite attractive.
  9. Wandering Man

    Wandering Man Member

    So do we have a range report, yet?

  10. ikelo

    ikelo Member

    I looked at the Kama and Hancer again today at Academy. As others have mentioned, Acadamy LLC Katy, TX is stamped in the side of the gun.

    The Hancer looks the best to me, somewhat like a CZ PCR, but the grips are really wide.
  11. StephenT

    StephenT Well-Known Member

    Ok, I've just returned from the range where I tried out Academy's Turkish 9mm.

    I fired 150 rounds (S&B, Ingman, and Wolf) in all and experienced two FTFs with the wolf ammo. S&B and Ingman fed without the slightest problem. Accuracy was similar with all three brands.

    I imagine that the trigger will become smoother with more practice. The trigger has some slight creep in single action mode. All in all, I'm very pleased with the Hancer.

    Below is a picture of my shots at 15 yards.

    Attached Files:

  12. kjeff50cal

    kjeff50cal Well-Known Member

    what pic :confused:.
  13. StephenT

    StephenT Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I had some trouble adding it. The 10.1 resolution made the photo too large (3.5MB), so I had to figure out how to compress it. It's there now.
  14. kjeff50cal

    kjeff50cal Well-Known Member

    Verrrry Nice!!!! Im torn between the Hancer and the Kama (a buick lover:p). I will get one or the other to keep my EAA Witness company.
  15. zanzibar

    zanzibar New Member

    I know this is an old thread, but I just purchased a Hancer 2000 9mm from Academy. Put 200 rounds of cheap ammo through it without a single problem. Very accurate at 10 yds or less. Didn't try greater distances. Materials, construction, fit and finish are all excellent. Rubber grips feel good in my hand. Trigger action is smooth and effective. Field strips very simply. Overall, a highy capable firearm that compares very favorably with much higher priced models.
  16. JAV8000

    JAV8000 Well-Known Member

    If it's anything like my Stoeger Cougar (Turkish made), I would say you got a great deal. I still really want an all steel CZ SP01 non-decocker model. I figure it to be a really fast shooter with hot 9mm ammo, kinda like a super hi-cap 9mm 1911 SA/condition 1 capable service auto that also has second strike capability.

    My Stoeger Cougar rocks with hot 9mms. Turkey arms manufacturers have shown the capacity to produce some really nice guns for bargain prices in recent years.
  17. Dobe

    Dobe member

    I have the AR-24. It is very well made, and the quality is high. I prefer it to a CZ.
  18. Nosidda Zneas

    Nosidda Zneas Well-Known Member

    i got the KAMA the day after christmas for $250 clearance ($50) taken off from a gift card. finish fit and feel are excellent! been researching it for about a year and am glad to have made the purchase. I shot it two days ago and the trigger is smooth and trhe cycling of the slide and rounds is smooth great gun well made groups well firt mag i shot held a 2 inch group at 15'

    i would trust my life to it
  19. Arthur2001

    Arthur2001 Well-Known Member

    I highly advise to test fire a Stoeger Cougar 8000F. I had the opportunity to experience it in a range around 150 rounds. No single failure at all and quite good shooter with its rotated barrel. As per the range guys tolds, it had over 35.000 rounds shooted without any failure.
  20. tekarra

    tekarra Well-Known Member

    $250 for a Kama! Where?

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