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Saw my first open carry yesterday

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sigpro, Mar 19, 2012.

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  1. sigpro

    sigpro Well-Known Member

    Been living in NC for a couple of years and yesterday, I saw a civillian openly carrying a handgun. First time I've ever saw that. It was a guy on a Harley wearing what I guess was a Walther P99. Don't know if I would openly carry even if I could, but It's nice that folks have that right.
  2. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    Open Carry is a wonderful thing. I find it easier to conceal carry but the best way to raise OC awareness is to host little events that raise public awareness. Some responsible groups put on an Open Carry ice cream social, others do an OC trash pick up day. We have the right so let's increase awareness so it's not as big of a deal.
  3. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    What a coincidence, I saw my 1st one yesterday too.

    I was at work and went into a gas station to get a drink where some other cops where and a guy on a motorcyle was open carrying.

    The cops said, "What an idiot."

    I didn't say anything. But the cops didn't harass him or say anything to him. I have no problem with carry. I think most cops don't. They just think it's wiser to do it concealed.
  4. sigpro

    sigpro Well-Known Member

    I'm a Cop, and I don't have a problem with it from legal point of view. I'd just hate to be standing in line at the 7-11 with my gun exposed, when some nut comes into rob the place. I'm also not crazy about those You Tube videos where a guy goes out packing in public, with the intention of getting stopped. I get the point they are trying to make, but the Videos make both gun owners and cops look bad. Just my opinon. Oddly enough, my deptments regulation forbid open carry for off-duty officers.
  5. kirkosaurus

    kirkosaurus New Member

    Chances are great that your exposed gun will cause him to not rob the place as criminals look for easy targets and don't want holes in them. Congratulations, your open carrying just kept a robbery from happening.
  6. FMF Doc

    FMF Doc Well-Known Member

    Depending on where in the Great State of North Carolina you are, OC is very common. Out towards the mountains, OC is practically the standard. The law doesn't strictly forbid it, and as long as you don't get caught up with the "going armed to the terror of the public" clause you are good. I see it occasionally here in the coastal region, but not like out west. Though you also see a lot more revolvers in some pretty serious calibers out there, so OC is almost required. I'm not saying you can't conceal a Ruger SuperRedhawk Alaskan in 454 Casull, but it would take some serious effort!
  7. Grmlin

    Grmlin Well-Known Member

    I prefer to carry concealed, just me I'd rather the eliment of suprise if necessary. N.C. gets kind of hot/humid in the summer so its either a pocket holstered pistol or open carry. Still think it looks funny to open carry in shorts especialy lg frames.

    So what is a freedom spong?
    I retired from the Marine Corps 6 years ago and I still refer to non-military personel as civilians.
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  8. sigpro

    sigpro Well-Known Member

    Grmlin - couldn't agree more. I don't think I'd want the bad guy to know I had a gun, untill I was ready.

    FIVETWOSEVEN Well-Known Member

    I open carried into the bank today, the teller was a bit surprised to see me with weapons as I also had a Bulgarian AK 74 Bayonet on my left hip and my XD-40 on my right hip. The bank manager gave an obvious double take as I was leaving as he was saying goodbye.

    I would rather the criminal see I'm a threat to his petty well being and pick another victim instead of seeing my weapon after he has already started his attack making things even more deadly as he then starts to fight for his own life when he just wanted to steal your wallet and nothing more.

    I'm not saying that OC is always better then CC but OC does have a lot of advantages going for it.
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  10. brickeyee

    brickeyee Well-Known Member

    Congrats on not screaming in fear and curling up in a fetal position.:what:
  11. phil dirt

    phil dirt Well-Known Member

    I don't like the idea of open carry. It intimidates people, and in my opinion, it does more harm to gun rights than it does good. If I, personally, saw a guy walk into my bank openly carrying a pistol and a bayonet from an AK74 on his side, my blood pressure would definitely rise. You can be sure that I would watch this guy like a hawk!
  12. mortablunt

    mortablunt Well-Known Member

    Apologies accepted. Nominated for most humorous accidental thread derailment.

    FIVETWOSEVEN Well-Known Member

    If it wasn't for the bayonet, I could be seen as an off duty cop because of my overall appearance. Tucked in shirt, many things on my belt, well groomed, and acting casual and joking around with the teller. I do understand what you are saying to a point but I wouldn't worry about someone like that if I saw them. Anyway the Bayonet just looks like a large knife to most people and it's not really any more scary that it could be mounted to a rifle.
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  14. Creature

    Creature Well-Known Member

    I dont mind open carry. In fact, I applaud those who endeavor to champion the cause.

    But what I do mind is when I see a knucklehead wearing a sub-standard holster that has ZERO weapon retention features with the pistol half falling out of it...or the opposite, a non-LEO, non-operator knucklehead wearing a drop-leg (tactical) holster who has yet to shoot the H&K Mk23 strapped inside it. If you choose to open carry, do it properly. Use an APPROPRIATE and QUALITY holster
  15. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Here is a real life example of what happens in that circumstance:


    From the article:
    "Here are my thoughts from watching that tape:

    Talk about a cold-blooded, fast attack where an innocent was shot without warning! Unbelievable. Situational awareness is really important. Luck doesn’t hurt, either.

    Open carry was an advantage in this case because in the video I saw just how fast the GO managed to draw his gun and begin to return fire. You always hear about how open carry is so bad tactically – you’ll be the first one shot, etc. Oh, yeah? The GO had a HUGE gun in plain sight and he was NOT shot. Who got shot first? An unarmed store owner.

    I agree. Just carry the dang gun for self protection in a manner that you decide is most effective for you, in your location and circumstance. I have only had one problem with a police officer who didn't personally like my choice and harrassed me for it. The rest of police officers who have been around my gun didn't care and have been 100% professional in their actions.

    FIVETWOSEVEN Well-Known Member

    I actually saw a cop with a simple slide holster once. A criminal could have easily grabbed it and shoot him in the back before he had a chance to try and retain it. When I open carry, I now use a Galco HALO holster which is a thumb break. I will never open carry without some form of retention on the holster and I always do my best to keep aware of my surroundings and who is standing near me. I keep my right arm free to both be able to use it if God forbid and also to retain it.

    I do agree about someone open carrying because it's cool, I do it because at the moment, it's the only way I can legally carry. My XD has honest wear from being used and drawn from a holster countless times during practice.
  17. HARV6

    HARV6 Well-Known Member

    You probly weren't the first person there that hadn't seen it before. That's a big reason why I don't personally open carry in public...its unusual, so you stick out like a turd in a punchbowl, and everyone keeps their eyes on you. Too many stories about OCing and someone calls the cops to make sure you're not a whack job. CCW and you just blend in with the crowd. I'd rather be another brick in the wall that would put down an attacker as soon as his head turned in a different direction.
  18. sigpro

    sigpro Well-Known Member

    Boy, when these guys clean up a thread, they don't mess around!
    Anyhow, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll admitt that there are some pro's to open carry, but I don't think it is for me.

    Here's the thing about that. Lots of new hires go through the Police Academy, get issued a glock or whatever. Now, the police Academy should teach them how to shoot, and how a retention holster works, but they really don't teach them much about guns, or holsters. They will probably explain to them the laws and policies regarding off duty carry, but thats about it. So these guys get out on thier own and they have a duty weapon, they want to carry, but know nothing about concealment holsters. They are also, usually broke, being newley hired civil servants and all. So they will go out and buy a cheap Velcro and Nylon holster from the local sporting goods shop, and walk around with a barely secured, poorly concealed, full sized handgun. If they work at a decent Department, someone might pull them aside and speak with them about it. Usually they'll eventually get straightened out, one way or another, and get a decent holster.

    My current dept. has fairly strict off dutyweapons policies, which give us less options that an armed civillian (uh, I mean non-sworn person). we aren't allowed to carry anything smaller than a .380, no pocket carry what-so-ever, gun has to be secure in a retention holster. Obviously no waist band carry. Some guys will actually go out and get a regular concealed carry permit, just so they can carry a .25 or a .32 in a pocket holster.
  19. Flintknapper

    Flintknapper Well-Known Member

    phil dirt wrote:

    Please explain?

    Yes, the FIRST time...maybe the second time, but generally speaking the "public" is very accepting of things (even if different) once they see no harm is being done.

    ONLY by exercising our rights and exposing the (largely misinformed) "public" to responsible O.C. will we ever get them used to it. IF it were common enough, eventually....soccer Mom's would stop screaming "man with a gun", grabbing up their kids and running for their lives. :rolleyes: Sheeeesh.
  20. BP Hunter

    BP Hunter Well-Known Member

    I also saw an individual in a gunstore open carrying. He was carrying an XD and was obviously cocked with the cocking indicator showing itself. He was carrying it with the supplied plastic holster that came with the gun. Honestly, if you were going to carry openly, at least carry it in a good holster with some form of retention.
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