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Scotland: "Playing with guns is 'good for boys' "

Discussion in 'Legal' started by cuchulainn, Jul 13, 2003.

  1. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Well-Known Member

    from Scotland on Sunday

  2. CleverNickname

    CleverNickname Well-Known Member

    I guess then that they'll be really happy to hear about the rubber-band-powered Lego guns my brother and I built when we were little. They didn't shoot the bricks fast enough to hurt anybody, but my mom did the "you'll put someone's eye out" thing and made us take them apart...
  3. Zedicus

    Zedicus Well-Known Member

    All I can say is It's about time somone said something in scotland in the support of guns one way or another.

    & CleverNickname, remember the School Projectile Weapons made of a double looped rubber band hooked between either 2 fingers or a makeshift crossbow and a rolled pice of paper bent in half in a "V" to have a rock hard blunt end? Damn thost things can hurt!!!:D:rolleyes:
  4. Greg L

    Greg L Well-Known Member

    Way back when (30 years now :eek: I feel old) I spent a year in the UK as a 6-7 year old. Being the child as some semi hard core anti's I had to make do. I remember vividly that I managed to nail a 1' piece of 1"x2" lumber onto a 2" diameter pine dowel and painted the whole thing black making a (remarkable to me now) very good imitation of a Sten gun. My friends and I had many a running battle through our backyards. I shudder to think what would happen now.

    Boys will be boys and the more they get to be boys as boys the less they have to catch up with as teenagers/adults with even bigger (and thus more dangerous) toys that they have no experience with (thus my 10 years in the army getting the full auto bug out of my system :rolleyes: ).

  5. AZRickD

    AZRickD Well-Known Member

    My three year-old daughter has no toy guns and I have no plans to buy her any. She does have a collection of real firearms which I am keeping for her in my gun safe.

    They're all mine for the next four years or so. :p

  6. Parker Dean

    Parker Dean Well-Known Member

    I was over at a friends house the other day helping him get a car running that got dumped on him. Anyway there were three boys around 7-10yo making a bit of racket playing some game with toy guns. Is it pathetic to say that I was mildly surprised?
  7. Ryder

    Ryder Well-Known Member

    I had toy guns but I don't recall shooting them at anyone. We played knights with wooden swords (and knives) using trashcan lids for shields.

    My kids were allowed toy guns but were instructed to treat them as real. I had no questions as to their ability to safely handle a real firearm when the time came. Can't recall having to make a safety related comment to them once they graduated to the real thing. Very responsible gun handlers.
  8. faustulus

    faustulus Well-Known Member

    And we care what Scotland thinks why?
  9. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member

    The whole reaction to Dunblane seems like a national psychosis to an outside observer. One pedophile decides to go out shooting, and this spectacular overreaction ensues... not by the people directly involved (how can you overreact to your child being killed?), but by people 100 miles away. The root cause of Dunblane was failure to incarcerate pedophiles, not increasing already colossal levels of gun control and sissifying the upbringing of children.
  10. Trisha

    Trisha Well-Known Member

    Goddess forbid girls should ever be anything but quiet and prim and proper submissive breeders!

    Bile rises and words fail. . .
  11. Mikul

    Mikul Well-Known Member

    Yea, good thing you can't make any guns out of Legos:
  12. igor

    igor Well-Known Member

    Gee, thanks, Mikul... now I've seen it all :scrutiny: :p :evil: :) :D
  13. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    "Playing with guns is 'good for boys' "


    Boys big and small.

    Tell me something I don't know.
  14. Billll

    Billll Well-Known Member

    When I was in grade school, I was the supplier to the whole 5th grade class. I built tiny pistols out of the spring-style clothspins that would shoot a BB about 25 ft. Immensly popular. They also shot toothpicks, if you added some paper fletching to them.

    Later, I went to work for the Military-Industrial complex. Toothpicks to nuclear missiles, fun trip. :D
  15. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Mikul - I might have to start playing with Lego again. ;)

    BTW, waddadey 'pex? See Robin Hood and you want to play with swords & bows. See cowboys and Indians and you wanna play that (but if you're Eastern European, it may be Tartars & Cossacks) ad infinitum. So long as no one is hurt, it's all fun and it teaches teamwork, respect and lets the little weasals wear themselves out before they come home.
  16. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    :barf: Space guns are great...for playing SPACE MAN! As kids we used to have, literally, footlockers full of toy guns. The more realistic the better. My brother actually purchases his guns now specifically based on the toys we used to have. His collection has lots of the models we used to have as kids. Trying to recapture some of that childhood excitement. It's very cool.

    Let the blissninnys chew on that one for a while. Losers.

    - Gabe
  17. MicroBalrog

    MicroBalrog member

    For example:

    The Dunblane Massacre - Committed by a pedophile who didn't have his license revoked due to problems with the local bureaucracy.

    The Columbine shooting - illegally possessed guns in a gun-free zone.

    The Oklahoma bombing - the murderer carried a legal gun.

  18. iamkris

    iamkris Well-Known Member

    While not a scientific experiment, my wife and I were caught up in the whole "don't expose your kids to violent activities and they won't grow up violent".

    During a recent, brief lapse in sanity and reason, my wife and I -- me being a longtime shooter but lately too busy to keep with it -- succumbed to daycare and nanny-state suburban PC-ness and forbid my son (now six years old) from playing with toy guns, pretending to shoot anyone/thing or from watching violent TV. At daycare, the boys got in severe trouble for even inferring anything to do with guns. I "hid" my guns on the rare occasions that I actually got to use them (mostly to go hunting once or twice a year).

    The result? My son continually got in trouble at daycare for having shootouts at daycare. He had a fascination with guns. He built them out of Tinker Toys. He was a "terror", biting and hitting...about the same as other boys his age.

    The straw that broke this camel's back was when I overheard a day care provider say "guns are bad, people who use guns are bad" to another child. THAT WAS IT. That moment two years ago actually rekindled my long-dormant interest in shooting and guns.

    Now I actively involve my son in cleaning guns and gun safety. He watches the NRA Eddie Eagle videos. He has shot a 22 (highly supervised). I still tell him not to shoot people but always couch it in a gun safety example.

    The result? He's growing up as a normal boy. I'm teaching him to not be ashamed and treat guns as a normal part of life (not easy in soccer mom country...folks in rural areas won't quite understand this). He actually shows LESS interest in guns than before...but he does show interest when I do.

    Now I start working on my 3 year old daughter and 2 year old son.
  19. Solinvictus70

    Solinvictus70 Well-Known Member

    I had a toy musket, flintlock pistol, a black plastic C96, a Kadet bolt action, and I used my Star Wars stormtrooper rifle as a Sterling. Needless to say, guns-o-plenty. I used to have a Pittsburg Pirates hat that I would put cloth under in back and pretend I was a French Foreign Legionaire.
  20. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Of course boys need weapons! From birth their hands reach out for weapons. They need to wrestle, they need to fight, they need wooden swords, training guns and real firearms. Boys fight and use their hands--take that soccermommies--they are not little dress-up dolls to be pumped full of medication and molded into clay like the New Soviet Man!

    However, most of all, THEY NEED DISCIPLINE! The need a mother and father who will see that this is done within the confines of rules, limitations and standards to ensure their growth and development of martial skills and internalize that discipline so they turn into men, not thugs or slugs.

    I am soon to have 4 little boys running about my brother's; boys ignorant of grappling, fighting, swords, and the use of firearms (the oldest is 5 and apparently has seen his first "karate movie"--I nearly cried). However, they are learning discipline. I can harldy wait until Tio Tejon is allowed to get started!:D

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