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shipping ammo?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Brockak47, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. Brockak47

    Brockak47 Well-Known Member

    I have a small quantity of ammunition I would like to ship (150 rounds of pistol ammunition in original packaging) how do I go about shipping it? If I have it boxed up and bubble wrapped do I need to inform if I am not asked that it contains ammunition (if sent via UPS or FedEx)?
  2. snorky18

    snorky18 Well-Known Member

    you do need to inform them. I'm not sure of Fedex process. UPS is:

    -show up at UPS HUB (not the ups store) and tell them what you're shipping (ground is the only option)
    -workers there tell you they aren't allowed to help you with hazardous material, tell you to use their phone to call the UPS hazard shipping line
    -call their 1800 number, get told to write "ORM-D Small Arms Cartridges" on the outside of the box, and draw a rectangle around it.
    -ship ground as normal once you've followed their instructions.
  3. orionengnr

    orionengnr Well-Known Member

    Print up their web page and take it with you. It will save you some frustration when Nervous Nellie behind the counter starts yapping. :)

    Yes, you need to inform them, and do it the right/legal way.
  4. hugh damright

    hugh damright Well-Known Member

    A week or two ago I asked the UPS driver about shipping ammo ... he checked and found out that UPS does not ship ammo ... I thought he was wrong and called their hazardous material support center at 800-554-9964 ... they confirmed that UPS does not ship ammo ... I contacted FedEx and they said they will ship ammo but you have to open a FedEx account online and schedule for them to pick up the shipment (you can't take it to the FedEx place and ship it).
  5. Orlando

    Orlando Well-Known Member

    Huh , wonder why the brown UPS truck dropped off ammo to me last week and is deliverying more today???

    Ammunition must be shipped separately from packages that contain firearms (including handguns).
    Ammunition will be transported only when packaged and labeled in compliance with 49 C.F.R. ยง 172 regarding hazardous materials shipments, and must be shipped in accordance with the UPS Guide for Shipping Ground and Air Hazardous Materials
  6. oneounceload

    oneounceload member

    ^^^yep, UPS delivered my shotgun ammo from Cabela's, no issue
  7. hugh damright

    hugh damright Well-Known Member

    I assume a place that sells ammo has hazmat training and so UPS will ship ammo for them.

    If anyone here calls the UPS hazardous material support center at 800-554-9964 and is told that UPS ships ammo for individuals without hazmat training then I'd like to see that posted here. I was told that I cannot ship ammo, that they had shipped ammo in the past due to confusion, but that the ammo shortage has caused them to focus on their policy, and I was told I had to have hazmat training to ship ammo UPS.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2013
  8. Orlando

    Orlando Well-Known Member

    The quote I gave you came directly from UPS web site, you can ship ammo UPS
    Maybe you are confused with USPS? You cannot ship ammo USPS

    Loaded ammo is not hazmat, only primers and powder. Makes sense doesnt it?
  9. rjinaz85308

    rjinaz85308 Member

    UPS does ship ammo. You just need the the ORM-D stickers(or write it on the package). My company has a regular daily pickup so I just take ut to work and take it to the mail room. Ships for same price as any other package

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  10. mgkdrgn

    mgkdrgn Well-Known Member


    UPS ships ammo every day of the week ... they just brought me 1720 rounds of 7.62 x 54R.
  11. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    I called them. They said put a label on the outside shipping box marked "Cartridges, Small Arms ORM-D", package the rounds in factory packaging or similar, pack the factory boxes in a sturdy shipping box and take it to a real UPS hub (not a retail store) or call for a driver pick up.

    They referred me to this webpage:

    The UPS Hazardous Material Support Center told me that complete rounds of ammunition do not meet the definition of explosive or flammable for hazardous substance, it is ORM-D which they thought meant Other Regulated Material-Domestic and means that it can't go by air. This spreadsheet, which you can download from UPS shows that Cartridges, Small Arms are ORM-D and if shipped ground not subject to HAZMAT regulations:

    http://www.ups.com/media/en/49CFR chemical_table_revisions_04012013v4.xls

    Notice in the three "ground shipment columns" of that above table that the only requirement for Cartridges, Small Arms is, "Package must bear ORM-D marking"

    Have a nice day.
  12. hugh damright

    hugh damright Well-Known Member

    That's odd ... two weeks ago my UPS driver checked with his boss and said they could not ship ammo, I thought they were mistaken and so I called the 800 number but they also said I could not ship ammo unless I had hazmat training ... just now I called again and was told that I can ship ammo UPS ground to the lower 48 States ... sheesh.
  13. 351 WINCHESTER

    351 WINCHESTER Well-Known Member

    I was told that I needed to be hazmat certified too per DOT regs.
  14. Fencer

    Fencer Active Member

    I literally shipped some ammo last week to 2 different locations. Packaged it up, wrote ORD-M with a rectangle around it and shipped it out. I will be shipping more this week now that I think of it. I will post if I suddenly have any issues.
  15. jonnyc

    jonnyc Well-Known Member

    Most UPS people need to be trained by consumers. I had to stand there for 2 hours a few years back 'til they went through about 5 levels of supervisors. Now I get big happy smiles and no hassle at all sending ammo.
    -Must be packed well.
    -Must be 60lbs. or less.
    -Now must use the new black and white diamond label with no mention of small arms cartridges.
    -Must go Ground.
    -No special hazmat rules,fees or rates.
    -No signature required.
    -Can't ship to HI, AK, or Catalina Island, CA.
    That's it. Anything else said by a UPS employee is straight out of their butt.
  16. mgkdrgn

    mgkdrgn Well-Known Member


    Wrong answer.

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