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Shoot First?!?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Kermit911, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. Kermit911

    Kermit911 Well-Known Member

    Is this True?

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  2. AirForceShooter

    AirForceShooter Well-Known Member

    yes it's true to a degree.
    As of October 1, we here in Florida no longer have to "retreat" from a place we have a right to be at.

    Oh and if you do shoot the bad guy or his family can't sue after.

  3. hillbilly

    hillbilly Well-Known Member

    Arkansas already, sort of, has this as law.

    In the Arkansas statute, there is a "duty to retreat" statement, but it is also qualified by the phrase "with absolute safety."

    In Arkansas, in a public place, you have a duty to retreat from a threat, but only if you can do so with "absolute safety," whatever the heck "absolute safety" means.

    Basically, there's no such thing as an "absolutely safe" retreat from a person who is trying to harm or kill you. At least any competent attorney could argue it that way.

    Unless, let's say, you are in an amored personnel carrier, the attacker is armed with a rubber hose, and you can merely back up at 20 mph.

    But even though Arkansas has a "duty to retreat" law, we've also got the "with absolute safety" qualifier in the law, which really murks things up.

  4. AhmuqGB

    AhmuqGB Well-Known Member

    I love the spin on that!! Let's ignore the fact that Florida residents were getting car jacked, robbed, and assaulted at gun point(by criminals). I went to the web site and got a good laugh. They make it sound like Florida is becomnig the wild west...come to think of it people back then WERE much more polite.(contrary to hollywoods depictions.)
  5. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

    No, it's not. It does not authorize "nervous or frightened residents to shoot you." It only clarifies that if you try to rob or rape a Florida resident in a dark alley, she no longer has to try to outrun you before she can shoot you, and if she does shoot a rapist, the rapist can't sue her afterward.

    The only people who should have anything to worry about are criminals.

    This ad was paid for by the Brady campaign, IIRC, in an attempt to hurt the state of Florida for crossing them. Take it with a grain of salt, considering the source.
  6. boofus

    boofus Guest

    Whuppeee. We've never had to retreat in Texas. In fact here you can blow them away if they take your property without threatening your life. The crime rate of TX cities is still lower than gun-free utopias like New York or Chicago or Washington DC.

    Gun grabbers screaming 'WOLF!' yet again.
  7. Cacique500

    Cacique500 Well-Known Member

    At least they didn't try to hide their tracks...

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  8. Graystar

    Graystar Well-Known Member

    It is an absolute lie.

    No law authorizes nervous or frightened residents to use deadly force.

    Every person in the world has the right to use deadly force to defend his own life from imminent danger. This does not have to be authorized, and every state has laws recognizing this right.

    However, in the last century some states have stipulated that a person must retreat from such a situation if they can do so safely. This created a conundrum for people being attacked. If you take time to search for a safe escape, your victimization could be much worse (hurt or killed.) If you fight back and a jury later decides that you had a safe escape route, you could go to jail and then could be sued by your attacker.

    Florida had such a retreat rule, and the new law gets rid of this nonsense. It recognizes with absolute clarity that the life of the victim should in no way be placed in any greater risk for the well-being of the attacker. It also protects a victim from being sued by an attacker, should the shooting be ruled justified.

    The law doesn’t create any special right to shoot anyone you want. If you’re wrong you’re still going to jail. It simply eliminates bleeding-heart nonsense and fully restores your right to defend your life.
  9. gunner03

    gunner03 Well-Known Member

    Every one keeps saying FL residents,dose this mean I still have to retreat if I'm visiting???
  10. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    I love this campaign by Brady.

    Absolutely EVERY fence sitter I've shown it to has had the same reaction; They think Brady is a bunch of crazy reactionary nutjobs.

    Brady keeps this crap up and they will so margainlize themselves that they won't ever be able to climb back to the place they once held in the public's eye.
  11. Lennyjoe

    Lennyjoe Well-Known Member

    Rumor has it they were handing them out at the airports in Fla. Not suprised though being it the Brady folks.
  12. skidmark

    skidmark Well-Known Member

    Generally speaking, you are a "resident" if you need to shoot somebody while visiting, but are not if you want to vote while visiting.

    But I'm only a private in the War on Poverty. :neener:

    stay safe.

  13. Gump

    Gump Well-Known Member

    Attacking innocent people Potentially deadly pamphlets? I mean those things could give you a nasty paper cut, which if left untreated could eventually lead to death. Sounds like a situation that would warrant a serious response :D
  14. dasmi

    dasmi Well-Known Member

    You had to do a whois for that? The brady logo is right on the poster.
  15. obiwan1

    obiwan1 Well-Known Member

    It's been 2.5 days and I haven't tripped over a body yet! :what: I haven't even seen any blood stains :what: How can it be?????????
  16. scout26

    scout26 Well-Known Member

    Darn !!! And I had my bags packed to move to Fl just for this reason :rolleyes: ......Time to un-pack.

    Obiwan, you need to look under all those Assualt Weapons that have flooded the streets over the course of the last year.... :neener:
  17. wdlsguy

    wdlsguy Well-Known Member

  18. Andrew Rothman

    Andrew Rothman Well-Known Member

    I'd sooner join the Hare Krishnas than the Brady Campaign.
  19. scout26

    scout26 Well-Known Member



    That's a really bad visual........ Must......clear.......mind.......



  20. goalie

    goalie Well-Known Member

    This is good for us. Even rabidly anti-gun FL congresspersons will be pissed off at anti-gun groups that negatively impact the tourism revenue of their state.

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