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Shoot the Bomb?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Edward429451, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    I met a real nice older gentleman at the range yesterday and he was sighting in a custom 280 Rem (Shilen match barrel, custom wood, $1200!!), anyway he starts telling me that this rifle is for a customer of his, and that it'll be used for the 600 yard 'Shoot the Bomb' matches somewhere.

    He said they compress dynamite (called it something else but said its basically dynamite) into sodapop can size cylinders and shoot them at 400, 600, 700, and 800 yards (IIRC), and the shot explodes the dynamite.

    Soda can size hits at 600 yards or better???:what:

    He said he used to be able to do it with a 4X Weaver scope but has since went to a 12X. Sights in 6" high at 100 and hold dead on (again, IIRC).

    He gave no indication that he was pulling my leg. Seemed real serious. I wondered if any of you all have ever heard of this game or participated in one. Wow.
  2. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Ummm, you mean like they do at Knob Creek?:p

    Matches like that have been popular around here for a long time. Did not know they did it out West too, but would stand to reason that they would have more room to do goofy stuff like that out there too.

    Try it, you'll like it!:D
  3. Detritus

    Detritus Well-Known Member

    Yep, i certainly have heard of "dynamite" or "Bomb" shoots before.

    always figured that the whole thing started when some "long range" fanatic decided that he wanted to keep his buddy that went to the range with him, on HIS end of the lane instead of down in the pits pulling targets for him.

    that or it was one of those thigns that started with the phrase "Hey bubba, Hold mah beer and watch THIS!" :rolleyes: :D
  4. synoptic

    synoptic Well-Known Member

    Thats awesome! Anyone know of any shoots like that in Texas? Preferrably the Houston Region.
  5. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    Very cool. I guess not many semi autos get used in these matches, huh?

    Sniper rifles and bolt race guns. But even then, how many guys can hit a beer can at 600? I think even Steve Smith might have trouble here...:D

    I can imagine hitting a 36" bull at 600, but not a beer can. I would like to watch one of these shoots though.:cool:
  6. Abenaki

    Abenaki Well-Known Member

    Soda cans at 600 yards is nothing.
    There are guys out there that have "egg" shoots.
    Thats right they shoot eggs at 600, and 800 yards.
    Most of these boys are into Benchrest shooting.

    Wish I could shoot like that........or have a rifle capable of it!
  7. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Ed, I remember more than a few semi-autos used. I've used a BAR in .338 WM. At Knob Creek, some guys use M82s.

    If you want to watch, hook up with the THR crew going to Knob Creek this fall. I think they still do this down there???:confused:
  8. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    Where's Knob Creek?
  9. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    West Point, Ol' Kentuc'. A little west of Louisville, near the Ohio River.

    Good time, check it out sometime. Hit Kiesler's in Jeffersonville, Indiana and the Patton museum too.:cool:

    Do I rememeber Uncle Elmer doing this in one of his books? Or was this recollection from Unintended Consequences? Don't remember at office not FBP. Look it up later.
  10. gburner

    gburner member

    I know it was Hollywood, but this little trick was demonstrated in 'Two Mules For Sister Sarah', where Clint Eastwood ignites a bundle of dynamite on a train trestle with his 30-30 Winchester.
    It blowed up real good. Gotta love those spaghetti westerns.:p
  11. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    I remember that flick! Good one. Took him long enough, IIRC. He was all shot up too, wasn't he? I guess thats a good alibi.:D

    Didn't Sister Sarah wind up shooting it? Been a long time.

    Kentucky's good, I could go see family in Columbus and take 70 back which'd take me through indiana...:cool: But when, anyone? (not during my busy season, not during my busy season!)
  12. Neal Bloom

    Neal Bloom Well-Known Member

  13. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    That must be the one the guy was talking about. He said something about 2 bucks for 2 or 3 shots, something like that.

  14. Chuck Dye

    Chuck Dye Well-Known Member

    Dynamite, a mixture of nitroglycerine and diatomacious earth, does, indeed, explode with sufficient impact, and dynamite shoots are popular. I buy that part of the yarn. Grabbing the highest velocities and ballistic coefficients in Oehler's ammo library and running them through the Ballistic Explorer to zero at 600 yards gives 100 yard points of impact between eleven and a half and fifteen and a quater inch high, so that part of the yarn, I do not buy.

    If you want to play, check out the Define Your Own Bullet function at


    In the Oehler ammo library, the Winchester Ballistic Silvertip 140 grain, a B.C. of .484 at 3040fps appears to give the lowest midrange tragectory, but none of the factory loads comes anywhere near 6" at 100 yards for a 600 yard zero. To get that 140 grain bullet to zero at 600 yards and hit 6" high at 100 yards, you need a muzzle velocity of just over 4000 fps.
  15. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    He did say they was 140's. Silvertips come in the black box? I didn't look close but thats prolly what he was shootin. I'm not positive he said 6" as I indicated with the IIRC statement...He talked low and fast, and I was tryin to shoot, and guns goin off all over, etc, so I prolly have that part wrong about 6" high.

    Thanks for the link, looks fun.
  16. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    Huck, would you know how one could determine the ballistic coefficient of non store bought bullets? (i.e. cast or homemade swaged or bullets of unknown brand/origin?)

    Edited to add, that norma thing is fun! One other question..That 'Height of sightline inches' bar...that would be the height of sights above the bore? And measured how? (Center of bore to center of scope? / center of bore to center of rear sight?) :confused:

  17. Chuck Dye

    Chuck Dye Well-Known Member

    Beer money

    The ballistics program lives on a laptop and can easily go into the bar. I have paid for the Oehler Ballistic Explorer at least three times over in beer bets. I'm not sure which is more satisfying, the IPA's and imperial stouts, or the frequency with which shooters actually pay off when the program disagrees with the yarn. We are, for the most part, a pretty good bunch.
  18. SodaPop

    SodaPop member

    I just measured a Mountain Dew soda can and it is just about 5inches long.

    There are tons of guns out there than can shoot 1 MOA. I bet I'd have a 50% of hitting a soda can sized target at those ranges with my FAL, Mini14, AR, Model 70-30/06 ect..
  19. Chuck Dye

    Chuck Dye Well-Known Member


    Many of the ballistics programs will calculate B.C. from the velocity drop over a distance. Of course, this requires chronographing a good sample at two different ranges. I can run them through mine if you give me the numbers.

    Try the search tools, both here at The High Road, and at www.thefiringline.com for other free and online ballistics programs.
  20. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

    Interesting. I know this much, that a perfect B.C. is based on a value of 1.0 (and was figured with a 1 LB artillary shell, I think is what it said?) so I was thinking about what my cast lead 320gr cast lead bullets at 1401fps@8ft (44mag), and my 69gr 5.56's at (guesstimating 2600 cause my chrony took a hit, so extrapolated with similar bullets and charges to guess2600 :rolleyes: , I know.):D

    Correct me where I'm wrong, but a 1 moa gun would only have 50/50 chance hits here at 600 yds b/c 1 moa = 1" at 100 so at 600 it would equate to 6"?
    So a pop can is what 3"wide at most, so you'd have to be able to shoot 1/2 moa at 100 to have a mehanical certainty of hits on it at 600 yds? Am I headed the right direction here with my thinking?

    (Oh, I was estimating B.C. of the big fat 320 gr SWC at .125, think thats realistic? And I only have that chrono data from the one distance, is that significant to have it at two distances?)

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