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Should I get a BHP or a CZ-75

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by armchairQB, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. armchairQB

    armchairQB Well-Known Member

    First of all price is not an issue, I just want the best choice.

    I understand these two guns are slightly related in that the CZ is designed after the BHP. Also, the BHP is not a 100% John Browning design correct? This does not matter to me as the BHP has a long proven history. I would be getting a MKIII or a 75B. What are the primary differences and similarities as well as strengths and weaknesses of these two pistols. My caliber would be 9mm of course.
  2. rellascout

    rellascout member

    BHP Search over!


  3. jonnyc

    jonnyc Well-Known Member

    BHP...it is THE Classic!
    I would like to like the CZs, but the trigger is too far away for me to shoot comfortably. The HP is perfect in every way. YMMV.
  4. jfrey

    jfrey Well-Known Member

    I have only shot a CZ once and it was all right. The BHP on the other hand is a truely great pistol. They point naturally and rarely even malfunction, in my experience. There are some subtle things you can do to them to make them even better. Removing that pesky mag disconnect and polishing the sear will make the trigger much better.
    It is true that there are few things left in the pistol that were John's original design, as it was completed after he died, but they did a good job in coming up with a final firearm that has been used all around the world.
  5. LancerMW

    LancerMW Well-Known Member

    i own both, and if given a choice i would take the BHP
  6. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Well-Known Member


    The HP is not a "out of the box" shooter. It has a horrible trigger pull due to the mag disconnect safety. The mag disconnect safety is another annoying feature.

    The CZ has way more models, has been continously updated, and better support and aftermarket parts.

    The CZ is basically an improved BHP imo.
  7. rellascout

    rellascout member

    There is nothing wrong with the CZ75B. It is a nice gun but IMHO it does not fit as many hands as the BHP. I used to own a great 75B but I constantly found myself adjusting my grip to shoot it properly.

    The BHP simply fits my hand perfectly. YMMV

    I recommend going to a shop/range put each one in your hand and one will call out to you. In the end you need to pick the gun that fits "you" best.
  8. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    The CZ is more customizable, but the BHP is always going to be worth more.

    If money is truly no object, get both :D
  9. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Well-Known Member

  10. lev83

    lev83 Well-Known Member

    I have shot and owned both and must say I prefer the CZ 75B over the BHP. Better ergonomics and trigger IMO. But hey to each their own.
  11. rellascout

    rellascout member

    Simply not true.... The cost of the base gun plus novak nights, C&S hammer, sear, commander hammer, Wide trigger, extended slide, spegel grips and trigger job by a master gun smith cost me less than that CZ. People pay too much for BHPs because they are not patient and they do not know where to shop.


    PS if you want a bad ass CZ get yourself a Shadow from Angus. http://czcustom.com/CZ75_SP01_SHADOW_CustomShop.aspx

  12. railroader

    railroader Well-Known Member

    Well if you are looking for something single action you could order a cz 75b single action only from ghost holster and they could do a trigger job on it before it ships. Another option is a witness match in 9mm. I haven't personally handled one but I have read great things about them online. Here's one at Buds' gunshop. Mark
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2010
  13. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Well-Known Member

    What did you pay for that gun?
  14. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Well-Known Member

    The t/s has superb 2 lb SA trigger right out of the box

    If money truely is no object I dont think you could beat it.

    Last edited: Jan 11, 2010
  15. rellascout

    rellascout member

    Base gun was $475 the work with parts By Jim West of Wild West guns was about $650. IIRC
  16. rellascout

    rellascout member

    Witness guns seem to be good values. They are CZ clones but they do an excellent job of modernizing them. Lots of people like their Witnesses. They are too big for my hands. So they are a not start for me. YMMV
  17. GeezerwithGuns

    GeezerwithGuns Well-Known Member

    I own both.

    They are similar in layout, but very different guns all the same. The BHP is slimmer and is finished to a higher degree than the CZ. An earlier post mentioned the BHP trigger and magazine safety. Mine has had the safety removed and the trigger is excellent now. BTW - the CZ does not have a mag safety (good news). The CZ is a little beefier pistol and will not fit BHP holster. I can't say honestly that either gun is more accurate. They both shoot very well indeed. I've got probably over 1500 rounds through the Browning and it has never had a stovepipe or failure to feed. I don't have nearly that amount through the CZ, but it's been completely reliable as well.

    My CZ is a single/double action model (75B) which allows it to be carried at half-cock. I wasn't expecting much of a trigger on the CZ, but I've been very surprised. It is quite good. Not match quality, but not bad at all. This is a kind of "whatever floats your boat" deal. I don't think you can go wrong with either gun.

    New, BHP's do retail for quite a bit more, but the CZ's are still a real bargain at around $500 which is what I paid for mine two months ago. I was lucky to pick up my unfired BHP for $425 about four years ago. You can find bargains on the used market if you're patient. New, they start at about $800 now, I think.

    Good luck and good shooting!
  18. Oldnoob

    Oldnoob Well-Known Member

    I have both (C series BHP and SA CZ75b). The best comparison article I have seem was done by Mr. Stephen Camp (http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Browning and CZ.htm a great read). So instead listen to my poor wording, go read what he have to say about these two fine pistols.

    I have to add, BHP is and will continue be my favor 9mm pistol no matter what other think.

    BTW: CZ is not design after BHP. It just happen they share some similarities (spur and ring hammer, mag release bottom, grip panel...etc) . And even those similarities were often be seem in other pistols.


  19. LancerMW

    LancerMW Well-Known Member

    the bhp has a much better stock trigger than the 75b
  20. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Well-Known Member

    No, not even close.

    A stock BHP has a magazine disconnect and an atrocious trigger until its removed.

    Gun test recently measured its single action trigger with the magazine safety at 10lbs.

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