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Should I trade my HK USP 45 for Springfield 45?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by leadcounsel, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. leadcounsel

    leadcounsel member

    I've got an HK USP 45 with 2 mags and kydex holster. It's the one with the safety and decocker.

    Should I trade for a modified Springfield 1911 .45. Modifications include, allegedly by a gunsmith, a Stormlake threaded barrel. The 1911 has the wider slide serrations on rear and front of slide. Skeleton hammer and trigger. Extended beaver tail and ambi safety. Combat sights. 6 mags. Seller is asking $950, but apparently will trade straight across, or maybe add cash.

    I don't necessarily prefer one or the other. I guess I like the HK, but it's so thick and the mags are 10 round mags and extra mags are very expensive. I only have one HK, but I have several 1911s.

    Both appear in about the same condition.

    From a value point, is there a big difference in value?
  2. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

    It depends on the model of Springfield 1911. A GI, Mil-Spec, Loaded, or Range Officer, you may be losing a little from a value standpoint. If it's a TRP or Professional, you're making out, at least from a value standpoint.

    Ultimately, I think it depends on whether you are a 1911 guy or not. If the 1911 fits your hand better, and you shoot it better than the HK, you're probably better off with the 1911 no matter what the model is, especially if you don't really have much love for the HK.
  3. tommy.duncan

    tommy.duncan Well-Known Member

    I would stick with the H&K. Look at www.cdnnsports.com for extra magazines. I do like the (and my) 1911As' but between the two I would keep the H&K.
  4. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    yeah model is the most important question they range from 600 bucks to several grand..
  5. CharlieDeltaJuliet

    CharlieDeltaJuliet Well-Known Member

    I have a Brazilian Springfield 1911. I love it, but I still hold my HK's,Sig's and yes even Glock's to a higher standard. You are the only one that can say either the trade is worth it. Best of luck on your decisions.
  6. JimGnitecki

    JimGnitecki Well-Known Member

    Having owned both brands, I would rate the HK far higher in engineering, accuracy, and quality. HK is a professional grade firearm tool.

    Many years ago, I took an HK USP Tactical to a 3 day class that incldued firing our pistols at 50 yards. My HK outshot every other pistol there (about 15 class members), putting 5 shots into 2.5 inches at 50 yards from prone, with ME, not a really good shooter, shooting it.

    I personally prefer the appearance, finish, materials, and gestalt of other pistols over the HKs, but man, they are really, really good firearms.

    And, there is one exception to my objections above: The HK USP Elite. If you ever handle and shoot one of those, you will know you are handling a great pistol.

    Jim G
  7. silicosys4

    silicosys4 Well-Known Member

    I would rather have a USP45 than a gun that was "allegedly gone over by a gunsmith".

    To me, ANYTHING that "has been gone over by a gunsmith" needs some documentation with it, and I'd want to know more about the gunsmith.
    I own a USP45, and I like it very much now that I have gotten some more trigger time with it, and have gotten over the HORRIBLE DA trigger. It is a very solid, well made gun, and I would be hard pressed to trade it for anything that might or might not have been worked on by someone who might or might not have known what they were doing.
  8. el Godfather

    el Godfather Well-Known Member

    In a nutshell- NO!

    HK USP45 is an awesome machine that is reliable to bone. Springfield has got nothing on what you have. PERIOD.
  9. Fremmer

    Fremmer Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure there's a significant difference in value, I guess it depends on how good that smith was.

    But if you already have 1911s, You might keep the HK. It is a German gun, after all.
  10. Old Dog

    Old Dog Well-Known Member

    As much as I love the 1911, I'd say, hang on to the H&K. The USP was my first duty issue handgun in my post-military career, and as much as I like to dog these German pistols (and deride the friggin' cheese-grater frontstrap), they are just so doggone reliable that everyone should have one in the case of a zombie apocalypse ... Springfield Armory 1911s will always be there when you need to pickup another ...
  11. Girodin

    Girodin Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty wary of a 1911 that a mystery person has worked on. I've seen hack job work by even professional gun smiths.

    The USP is clunky gun with a less than fantastic trigger, but it has to hell and back durability, a lot of mechanical accuracy, and they are generally extremely reliable.

    This hits the nail on the head. If it was a TRP I'd seriously consider it. If it is a GI that's had a bunch of stuff added to it by who knows who, then I'd rather have a USP
  12. Fremmer

    Fremmer Well-Known Member

    the HK is an expensive pistol. The customizations on the Springer are customized for somebody else, so I can't see paying a premium unless it is a Yost or something else special.

    But if it trips your trigger, make the trade.
  13. TennJed

    TennJed Well-Known Member

    No you would be trading an elite pistol for a mid level pistol
  14. 5-SHOTS

    5-SHOTS Well-Known Member

    One simple word: NO!
  15. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't
  16. wow6599

    wow6599 Well-Known Member

    For this reason, I say no.
  17. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    I'll second the "gone over by a gunsmith" concern. If it really runs and you can prove that somehow, the 1911 might be a great value, but customized guns are rarely worth very much to anyone but the person who got the work done ... and if HE's selling it, that would make me wonder why.

    Now, if I had an HK I'd definitely sell it, but probably not for a worked-over gun.

    (Of course if that gunsmith was Jim Garthwaite or Bob Rogers or some other really respected name, that would be different. But he probably wouldn't be selling it for $950.)
  18. jjones45

    jjones45 Well-Known Member

    the springer is just another 1911. the hk is a real combat handgun that would probably be more reliable and less finicky with ammo. not just no, but hell no!!!!

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  19. grubbylabs

    grubbylabs Well-Known Member

    When I was younger and bought my first hand gun, it was a Smith and Wesson, I did not realize that someone had done a "trigger" job on it. It was then that I found out that not all gun smiths are created equal.
  20. powder

    powder member

    Keep the HK.

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