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Should the new Iraq Gov have a 2nd Amendment?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Rembrandt, Mar 20, 2003.

  1. Rembrandt

    Rembrandt Well-Known Member

    ...It's only a matter of time before Iraq will have a new government. If you were in charge of laying the ground work for a Constitution would it include a "2nd Amemendment"? Remember how the new constitutions of Japan and Germany were set up after WWII by the allies?....
  2. Al Thompson

    Al Thompson Moderator Staff Member

    If you believe in the one we have, it should appy to "all men".... Or all people....
  3. DeltaElite

    DeltaElite Well-Known Member

    It absloutely should.
    The real question is will it?
  4. beckrodgers

    beckrodgers Guest

    Yes. It will whether it is written or not. Thanks
  5. MAKOwner

    MAKOwner Well-Known Member

    First order of business in Afghanistan after the taliban was overthrown was to sieze personal weapons...
  6. Raymond VanDerLinden

    Raymond VanDerLinden Well-Known Member

    Second Amendment

    Beck is right, Goverment don't grant Rights God Grants rights to all men. Goverments the wise ones at least don't violate those right, even if they don't enumerate them.

    How ever the NWO types say that for the peace and safety of the Sheeple, weapons should only be held by the Goverment.

    We know the the safety of the Sheeple means nothing to the Goverment only the safety and peace of the Goverment agents.
  7. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    I believe each member of Homo sapiens is born with the right to fight back against tyrants, criminals, and terrorists.

    If I were to write a constitution for Iraq, the right to keep and bear arms would be the first defined civil right; such a document would also include immediate, mandatory hanging for any crime committed with a firearm. Rights include responsibilities.
  8. WonderNine

    WonderNine member

  9. larry_minn

    larry_minn Well-Known Member

    Standing Wolf

    "If I were to write a constitution for Iraq, the right to keep and bear arms would be the first defined civil right; such a document would also include immediate, mandatory hanging for any crime committed with a firearm. Rights include responsibilities"

    So if driving a car and you speed while carrying a gun you get hung by neck until dead? How about person who sneaks in can of pop/candy to movie and carrys a gun? Dead?
    Say a person actually forgets to pay for gas after filling car with gas. Hang him high?
  10. Triad

    Triad Well-Known Member

    It should but I really don't think it will.
  11. Ian

    Ian Well-Known Member

    Well, we'll have to write it such that they aren't allowed to have the arms that we're invading to take away...:rolleyes:
  12. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Yes, indeedy!

    QKRTHNU Well-Known Member

    Because murder committed with a knife just isn't THAT bad?
  14. Bruce H

    Bruce H Well-Known Member

    Well it really should but since the United States doesn't seem to understand it's own 2nd I doubt it.
  15. Vladimir Berkov

    Vladimir Berkov Well-Known Member

    Don't count on it. We are already taking the personal arms from our "liberated" peoples of Afghanistan. I doubt we are going to allow the "liberated" Iraqis to possess weapons either.

    What is truly ironic, is that both Afghanistan under the Taliban and Saddam's Iraq both allowed citizens to own military weaponry which is strictly forbidden for Americans to own.
  16. fallingblock

    fallingblock Well-Known Member

    Not all of the people, Vlad....

    only the 'approved' ones. Kurds caught with weapons by Saddam were executed. As were any members of the militias which opposed the Taliban in Afghanistan:rolleyes:
  17. WilderBill

    WilderBill Well-Known Member

    If we truely beleive that we are in the right and somehow have managed to have a better government, then we should set them up with what we started with; the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If they want to make changes, it can be done. They could add universal sufferage, the IRS, etc if they really want to.
    I doubt it will happen. If the UN is involved, I know it won't happen.
  18. Vladimir Berkov

    Vladimir Berkov Well-Known Member

    I never said the system was perfect, but for the vast majority of the countries, they can possess weapons we can only dream about.

    Now, when the people are "liberated" we are disarming ALL of them, not just the anti-government forces.
  19. fallingblock

    fallingblock Well-Known Member


    The 'approved' ones did not/do not form a 'vast majority' in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Saddam's Baath party is comprised of the minority Sunni population centered around Baghdad- the Shiites in the south and Kurds in the north are forbidden military arms, at least in areas still under Baath's control (shrinking momentarily, I believe). The Afghans were in a situation of near anarchy outside the warlords groups. It would be a good idea to rearm them, I think, otherwise we would be destroying a valid means of protection in an area of the world known for 'higk risk' personal encounters.:)
  20. Vladimir Berkov

    Vladimir Berkov Well-Known Member

    Unless I am mistaken, Baghdad contains most of the population, and I know at least that arms are available to civilians in Baghdad.

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