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sideways jammed primer

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by nooooobie, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. nooooobie

    nooooobie Member

    I was priming a bunch of .223 cases with my Autoprime XR. I felt resistance on one, and stopped. The case is stuck in the shell carrier, with a primer mashed in sideways. I took the autoprime apart so I could take the shell carrier out. Any suggestions how to remove the primer without detonating it?
  2. nooooobie

    nooooobie Member

    primers are Wolf Small Rifle primers.
  3. Comrade Mike

    Comrade Mike Well-Known Member

    Get the case out of the priming tool, get your universal decamped out and just ease it out slowly. Primer is probably useless now though.
  4. wgaynor

    wgaynor Well-Known Member

    Last time this happened, I removed the case/shell holder. Placed the shell in a vice with the shell holder/primer upright.

    Use a hammer with a lot of force.

    Something will give

    Wear glasses.

    For the faint of heart, don't do this...
  5. oneounceload

    oneounceload member

    Just run it through your deprimer like it is a spent primer, not a big deal - if you already crushed it and it didn't go off, pushing it out will be no big deal
  6. wgaynor

    wgaynor Well-Known Member

    I don't think he can... the shell holder should be stuck on the base and held in place by a sideways primer.

    I could be wrong though...
  7. nooooobie

    nooooobie Member

    Shell holder is trapped by the cartridge and primer. I'm thinking I can run the decap pin from my sizer/primer die through to push it out. Hoping it won't Kapow!
  8. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Put it back together and finish crushing it into the primer pocket until you can get the case out of the shell holder.

    Then put it in your press and deprime it normally.

  9. gacajun

    gacajun Well-Known Member

    Spray a liberal amount of WD40 on the primer to ensure that it is liberally soaked....so as to prevent the primer from detonation. Then proceed with whatever physical process you feel is the best.
  10. nix4me

    nix4me Well-Known Member

    I've done this, takes brute force. Be careful. Sometimes i've been able to crush it into the case more with the primer tool by rotating and crushing over and over. Other times i had to take hammer and pliers to it.
  11. nooooobie

    nooooobie Member

    stacked the autoprime shellholder on top of a standard shellholder in my press. Decapped without detonation. My sizing/decap die ended up with the cartridge stuck inside, but then I just drove the decap pin and cartridge out of the die with a hammer. Now the decap pin is stuck in the mouth of the cartridge. Had this problem before,used vise grips to pull it out. Other suggestions welcome.:banghead:
  12. mgmorden

    mgmorden Well-Known Member

    Too late now, but you did ALMOST the right thing. You want to stack the shellholders like you did, but use a universal decapping die (they cost less than $10). The case won't stick in those as it doesn't contact the die walls.

    At this point if you can get the autoprime shellholder off I'd slide the cartridge back into a standard shellholder, raise the ram, and then retighten the decapping rod into the die, then pull the ram back down.
  13. dmazur

    dmazur Well-Known Member

    See this -


    The consensus seems to be that it might work. If you wait long enough for it to soak in and affect the compound. But deactivation is not guaranteed.

    So, the safest approach is eye and ear protection and assume it is going to go off during a mechanical removal process. (Crushing or universal decapping.) If it does, you are protected. If it doesn't, you can be pleasantly surprised. :)
  14. stubbicatt

    stubbicatt Well-Known Member

    I hate i when this happens! If you have a decapping die, disassemble the priming tool, take the case with the cocked primer, and the priming tool shellholder, on over to your press, and set them on the ram. Gently raise the ram until the decapping rod protrudes through the flash hole. Gently press the cocked primer out.

    I have never had one detonate doing this, but there is always that risk, so plan accordingly and use appropriate safety gear including safety glasses.

    ETA: Not a dig at Lee. I love the feel their hand priming tool delivers. But I got tired of cocked primers, and upside down primers, and the lid popping off, so I bought the RCBS APS hand primer tool, and I must say I have had none of these issues since. I did have some issues initially, but once the bugs were worked out, I have been very happy with that tool. You might consider getting one of them.
  15. quaid

    quaid Well-Known Member

    Screw clamp style rotating pipe cutter. May be cheaper to order a new rod if you don't own one. If you're going to order a new rod anyway you can try placing the case in a shell holder and running it up through the die hole and grabbing with vice grips and lowering the ram. Lots of lube. Depends on what tools you have on hand.
  16. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Yep, mash it up until the primer goes into the case enough to let it slide out of the shell plate. I have the same problem when I flip one in my hand primer. I just squash that baby up into the case and pop the brass out. Then I go tap the primer out, touch up the primer pocket entrance, and re-prime. A universal decapper or the sizer die is the easiest and safest way to knock out the squashed primer from the primer pocket.
  17. 35 Whelen

    35 Whelen Well-Known Member

    I've done this many times with Lee's "improved" priming tool. (What was wrong with the old one?) In every instance I've been able to pluck it out with the point of a sharp needle file or a pair of small needle-nose pliers. Oil the primer if it makes you feel better, but it takes percussion to detonate a primer.

  18. Shmackey

    Shmackey Well-Known Member

    You can detonate a primer without percussion. Don't ask me how I know....
  19. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    You didn't heat that little rascal up did you? :D
  20. Shmackey

    Shmackey Well-Known Member

    Possibly accidentally....

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