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SIG P-250 - The Perfect Handgun

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Go For Broke, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Go For Broke

    Go For Broke Member

    Okay, I love the Sig P-250.

    But what's up with the rear sight being integrated with the safety thingy?

    Does anyone have a reasonable excuse that SIG promotes?

  2. MikeJackmin

    MikeJackmin Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing here...

    I think the original design lacked the safety - it's a double action pistol, after all, and there's no reason why a properly engineered, lightweight firing pin backed by a spring would present any sort of a drop hazard. I think that the safety was a very late addition, driven either by a regulation in some important market, or perhaps because of an ignition problem what required a heavier firing pin. Then I think they stuffed it into the rear sight like that to minimize the number of parts that would have to be changed.

    This is purely speculative, a result of staring at the thing and trying to second-guess what they were thinking.

    Nobody in the after-market sight business wants to assume the liability of replacing a safety feature, so that pretty much killed any hope of support for the P250 platform. Personally, I'm quite happy with the sights so it's not a problem for me, but I'm guessing you won't see any more designers embracing this approach.

    Is the P250 the perfect gun? It's perfect for the niche _I_ have for it... a modern bulldog revolver, a small heavy, with windex-bottle simplicity. I hope the modular concept catches on, but we'll see.

    Speaking of modularity, I've long argued that the world need a lightweight, pistol-caliber, double-action carbine for home defense use by non gun-enthusiasts. Something that is light and handy, recoils gently, hits hard enough to matter, is forgiving of a lack of trigger discipline, and has a manual of arms no more complex than a double action revolver. A P250 carbine could be an awesome thing.
  3. Fishbed77

    Fishbed77 Well-Known Member

    Perfect for what?

    Perfect for failing in just about every test for adoption by a law enforcement agency (ATF, Dutch Police, etc.)?

    There is a reason SIG expanded SP2022 production and has introduced the P320 while their marketing has been quietly sweeping the P250 under the rug.
  4. Sal1911A1

    Sal1911A1 Active Member

    P250 Perfection

    P250 Perfection!!!

    I love the P250 as well. So many shooters bad mouth the P250 and never held or shot one. We have a whole generation of shooters and instructors that never shot a DAO revolver or DAO anything.

    I hear it all the time about the P250. I guess shooters want a fast short trigger with a handgun for super quick split times.

    The P250 has so many great features:

    proper grip size to shooter

    Fantastic DAO trigger

    The best ergonomic of any handgun I felt.

    No sharp edges enclosed no snag hammer

    Magazines are quality. Night sights available.

    Conversion Kits a big plus, I just received my 9mm carry kit and shot a few hundred, it ran perfect.

    High capacity my 45 carry has 9 in the mag one in the pipe for ten rounds.

    100 percent reliable

    The gun is so simple not much can go wrong with it.

    I can go on but you get it.

    Look at all the P320 lovers coming out, The P250 has all the features but in DAO but it's the first pistol they dismiss.
  5. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Well-Known Member

    I agree with those points as well. I just purchased a P-250 in 9mm. at the end of June and it is a very nice gun. Good ergonomic grip, easy to use, night sights, easy takedown and reassembly. A shame it gets badmouthed.
    I understand people have their preferences in guns. I do too. But I won't say that a gun I do not "like" is a bad gun .... just that it is not my "cup of tea."
    We all have our tastes in these things.
  6. browningguy

    browningguy Well-Known Member

    Well I don't like dao pistols, so that would automatically kick it out of the best category.
  7. Gun Master

    Gun Master Well-Known Member

    Perfect Handgun ?

    What about the P-210 ?

    Also, what about the price ?

    I love it, but can't afford it .

    I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. :uhoh:
  8. Sal1911A1

    Sal1911A1 Active Member

    The rear sight is fixed in the slide to make it more durable, so it can't get knock off center. It is a strong set up, easy to replace if needed.

    That's my guess
  9. Sauer Grapes

    Sauer Grapes Well-Known Member

    I bought a 250 when they originally hit the market. I was quite use to shooting DA revolvers so I figured, why not.

    Loved the ergo feel of the gun. Trigger is long, but mine was smooth as glass.
    Most of us are spoiled shooting short triggers with shot resets. If you can master the trigger control, they are good guns IMO.

    I've since moved on from the P250, but I think for a carry gun, your well armed if u practice with it.
    As far as the FBI trials, I think it's a lot of hog wash. I never had a minutes problem with mine thru about 1,200 rounds.
  10. Capt. Ct.

    Capt. Ct. Well-Known Member

    I can't say that I was all that thrilled with mine. It gave me light primer strikes. I sent it back for the upgrade. This was on my dime. When I got it back it still game me light primer strikes. The conversion modules were not available. Maybe someday. I also didn't like the double action only trigger. Don't get me wrong on the trigger. It was quite smooth. I just don't like double action only and will never buy another. This pistol is not my perfect handgun by a mile.
  11. NWcityguy2

    NWcityguy2 Well-Known Member

    Fast and accurate shooting is literally the most important thing when talking about defensive handguns. Nothing else even comes close.
  12. ljnowell

    ljnowell Well-Known Member

    I shoot bullseye competitions DAO with a revolver. My daily carry is shot DAO, again a revolver. I have a glock21 that I shoot very well. The Sig p250 I shot? Worst trigger I have ever felt.
  13. bannockburn

    bannockburn Well-Known Member

    Sorry but not my idea of the "perfect handgun" either. I have tried them though and thought while the modular design was interesting (but hard to find and a bjt expensive), that if you're going to make a DAO gun then you should make it with a really great DAO trigger. Well the ones I tried had nowhere near that kind of trigger, making for a rather unsatisfying experience. Not exactly what I'm looking for in a pistol.
  14. zoom6zoom

    zoom6zoom Well-Known Member

    To be fair, some of the early guns did have issues. But they have long since been addressed.
  15. Sauer Grapes

    Sauer Grapes Well-Known Member

    Someone explain to me why it's a crap DA trigger. Too long? I'll agree it's longer than say, a S&W revolver but so is a Ruger revolver and probably a lot of other pistols. I've never shot all that many DAO semis. And most that I shot suck.
    How does it measure against other Sig DAO pistols?
  16. JDGray

    JDGray Well-Known Member

    I seen a guy at the range with one. He was swearing because he broke a spring taking it apart to show his buddy how cool it was....
  17. longknife12

    longknife12 Well-Known Member

    Haven't had any problems with mine. I use the SC as a carry gun. So far, no burps. My problem is I don't get out with it enough!
  18. Onward Allusion

    Onward Allusion Well-Known Member

    The P250's had some issues in the beginning and couldn't shake its first-impression with users. Even after getting the bugs ironed out, the public didn't really give it a second chance. Kind of reminds me of S&W and the 1st Gen Sigmas with the occasional issue and the reliable-awesome-value-for-the-money 2nd Gen Sigmas.

    I have two of 'em and a few X-change kits. They are great guns IMO, but they are not for everyone. Not everyone likes the heavy true-DAO trigger. The modular design, different grip sizes, & changeable trigger is what sold me on the gun. It's a great value for the money. It's accurate, reliable, versatile, and has good ergos.

    As for the safety . . . I'm guessing it came as an afterthought to sell folks who do not feel comfortable with a Glock-like gun, even though the P250 has a heavier trigger. Most P250's do not have that "feature". The 2 that I have do not.
  19. burk

    burk Well-Known Member

    I couldn't agree more. For the record pre Newtown I saw P250's on sale regularly for $349. At that price they were a good value and certainly competitive with some of the other entry level guns from major makers like the SW9 VE or the P95. Now they are well north of $500, and some models are pushing $600. Really? At that price there are a host of other handguns that are made to withstand serious use. I'm not anti-Sig, and I recommend the P2022 (a FAR better value than the 250) and the new 320 all of the time. The reality that trigger is just not a serious trigger for a semi-auto handgun.
  20. MikeJackmin

    MikeJackmin Well-Known Member

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