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SKS Accuracy... Dang...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by The_Armed_Therapist, Mar 7, 2013.

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  1. The_Armed_Therapist

    The_Armed_Therapist Well-Known Member

    I've had an SKS for a while. I've rarely shot past 50 yards, and rarely on paper. I typically do that with other rifles. Well, I went to the range yesterday, set up at 100 yards, and got about 12" groups. I was terribly disappointed... not that I expected 2" or anything, but I had been hoping to sink a little money into this thing.

    It's been a while since it's been really cleaned, so I'm going to be doing that soon. What other "obvious" things could be the problem that I should take a look at? I'm not fan of the open sights, but I'm thinking that couldn't possibly be the main factor here. I don't think it's me, as I had much success with everything else yesterday. I also recognize that maybe there isn't much that can be done; however, I'd like to try. It was a gift!

    So, besides cleaning, what things can I try to tinker with to possibly improve accuracy?

    Oh, and it's a Norinco.
  2. cleardiddion

    cleardiddion Well-Known Member

    Does it have a wood or synthetic stock?

    Depending on where you are and what sort of climate you live in, a wood stock can either swell or shrink.

    In my case, I check the screws every once in a while and find on occasion that I need to tighten them up. The rifle wobbling around definitely doesn't help accuracy.

    It might be worth taking a gander at that possibility.
  3. The_Armed_Therapist

    The_Armed_Therapist Well-Known Member

    Wood stock. Thanks!
  4. tahunua001

    tahunua001 Well-Known Member

    how much has been done to it?
    a lot of guys rip the bayonets off and that little weight off the barrel can open up groups a bit... not much but a little.

    then there is the sights... they really aren't that great. tech sights apertures can increase sight radius and give a better sight picture.

    the triggers are awful, or at least my norinco's isn't very nice... there are a few mods to make it better but they get pretty technical and are high risk mods... one slip and you might need a new trigger group.

    those are the main ones that come to mind.
  5. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    The usual stuff. Good cleaning. Proper oil/grease. Check for worn parts. Check crown. Check the bedding for high/low sections. Re-bed the barrel. Try different ammo. Check if bayonet is loose, or remove. Have throat/bore gauged for wear. Stone rough parts on trigger group. New springs. Etc.

    You should be able to get that group much smaller without a ton of work or money. It will never be a tack driver, but it should hit center of food/bad guy.
  6. ObsceneJesster

    ObsceneJesster Well-Known Member

    There is definitely something going on here. 4.5in groups at 100 yards are pretty common for the SKS without any major work done. With a moderate amount of work done, you should be able to bring that down to around 3in.
  7. adelbridge

    adelbridge Well-Known Member

    Brass cases ammo should shoot way better than nasty old surplus ammo
  8. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    Oh, and how strong is the rifling? Is it sharp or worn down? Shinny or dull and pitted?
  9. The_Armed_Therapist

    The_Armed_Therapist Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the suggestions! I'll come back and summarize my findings once I get a good chance to work on it. I was planning on adding the Tech Sights and the Tapco Intrafuse stock, but I won't be doing that if I can't get those groups to tighten up. At this point, if I can get them down to 6", that will be good enough. The plan was to essentially turn this into a battle carbine for my wife until we can afford an AR. She's only ever shot at around 50-100 yards max before, so 6" at 100 would be acceptable. 12+? No. LOL
  10. Arkansas Paul

    Arkansas Paul Well-Known Member

    Like any other gun, experiment with different ammo. Some guns are picky.
  11. Roadking Rider

    Roadking Rider Well-Known Member

    Some of the chromed lined barrels of the day were not all that great. It could be something as simble as a chip in the crown of the barrel. Or it could be the barrel is shot out.
  12. The_Armed_Therapist

    The_Armed_Therapist Well-Known Member

    What is the process for installing a new barrel? Can it be done at home by me (mechanically retarded)? Is it worth it?
  13. chicharrones

    chicharrones Well-Known Member

    I can't say my Norinco does 12" but it sure doesn't come close to 2" either. Maybe 6" if I'm lucky. I attribute it to crappy trigger, hard to see sights (for some eyes), surplus ammo, and barrel heating up. If I shot only 3 rounds per mag and let it cool, it might shoot better. It's an SKS though, so everything I do with it is with 10 round mags. It doesn't take but a few shots to start spraying around a bit.
  14. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Not until you try different ammo.

    No mention of what you are using, but if it's old mil-sup or even new Rusky commercial stuff?

    Not gonna shoot as well as it could with good ammo.

    Rebarreling an SKS yourself is probably not a good idea unless you have a barrel vice, action wrench, and a lathe.

  15. ball3006

    ball3006 Well-Known Member

    These rifles were built to be minute of man in accuracy. 12 inch groups falls into that catagory. All of my SKS will shoot better than 12 inches if I do my part. My old eyes have their good days and bad days. My Chinese rifles are the best shooters. The trigger is different on all my milsurps. You just have to use proper trigger manipulaton and you will be fine. If you want a target trigger, buy another kind of rifle. Don't waste your money on aftermarket stuff for a SKS. Just use the rifle for what it is.....chris3
  16. bhhacker

    bhhacker Well-Known Member


    At the very least get the tech site front site post..."Item #TS152 - Target Post for the SKS/AK Rifles." and the proper tool to take your old one off and put this one on.

    A skinnier post means you can make finer adjustments.

    It costs 5$ and is totally worth it. Get the full tech sight aperture sights if you have the money too, but i just swapped out the front and it is now minute of deer at 100 yards with crappy russian ammo.

    When the prices for stuff goes down, ill start rolling my own and im sure they will get even better.

    This was hands down the best 5$ mod on a gun ive ever done. (it actually cost about 20ish with the sight tool and everything but still:D)
  17. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    Didn't bother mine at all. Even with .308" bullet handloads it shoots 3.5" and with wolf 154 (seems to like that stuff), it shoots 2.5". 3" is typical for ball in both my SKSs. They're Norincos. My main gripe is the trigger, but my rifle has a decent trigger. My carbine, however, is more double action, like squeezing mud. :rolleyes: THAT is not conducive to good groups, but I can manage it off the bench and off hand after I get used to the crappiness.
  18. The_Armed_Therapist

    The_Armed_Therapist Well-Known Member

    I mostly use Wolf ammo. I know it's not the best stuff for accuracy, but my assumption was that jumping to 12" groups is way too large to just be an ammo problem. I'm basically going to try all of the smaller things mentioned here. Cleaning, checking screws, making sure nothing is broken, perhaps new front post, using better ammo, etc... Only then would I think about purchasing Tech Sights or replacing the barrel, etc. I'm not expecting 2MOA. 4-6 seems normal. That is A-OK with me.
  19. pseudonymity

    pseudonymity Well-Known Member

    Did you slug the bore to find out the size? Seems that SKS bores can run anywhere from .309 to .312.

    Ammo makes a big difference also - it is kind of hard to find decently accurate ammo for bores that are on the large side, but some good eastern milsurp stuff loaded with .311 bullets can shoot decent groups.
  20. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    I dont think anyone has suggested this:

    Any SKS Ive owned or had the pleasure to shoot has had stock wobble to one degree or another. If the action and barrel can move in the stock, accuracy suffers greatly.

    Try "nicer" ammo. Something in brass, just to say you tried.

    Ill be the first to suggest Tech Sights. They lengthen your sight radius, and the peep makes sighting faster, and target acquisition easier. This may also tighten your groups.

    Good luck.:)
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